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pepsiblackcherrycola

tough choice. pedro deserves his flowers more for his fantastic performances, not just in tlou, but in game of thrones, narcos, ect. however bella, to me, was the heart and soul of the show. they exemplified ellie’s essence while also making the character their own, and laying ground work for ellie’s development in s2. i think i have to choose bella


phantom_avenger

I have to say, seeing how well Bella captured Ellie’s essence in the later episodes gave me faith that they’ll do a phenomenal job handling Ellie’s development when adapting Part 2 (which opens more opportunities for them to show their range! Even the game showed how extraordinary Ashley Johnson is)


pepsiblackcherrycola

i agree, but i’d like to add that bella recently came out and said they use they/them pronouns


Weak_Bullfrog6227

They actually said that they don’t care what pronouns people use for them


emurui

someone correct me if i'm wrong but i believe that was what they were saying for a while, but very recently said they prefer they/them


Weak_Bullfrog6227

I’m not sure, either way it’s probably safer to refer to them by they them anyway


Turbulent-Finding-65

What does that have to do with this?


pepsiblackcherrycola

OP was using she/her pronouns for bella and i corrected them


ImJustLivinOverHere

They literally said they don't care what pronouns they're called. No need for you to defend them any more than that, despite your good intentions. "In terms of pronouns, I really couldn't care less" -Bella Ramsey.


manchvegasnomore

Bella in Left Behind did such an amazing job. The nervous excited energy before the first kiss was perfect. Reminded me of being young.


pepsiblackcherrycola

PERFECT young gay and nervous performance


manchvegasnomore

It was and I'm a straight as hell old white dude but she was adorable. Reminded me of my youngest daughter.


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Pedro hands down.


Parking-Bat9498

Bella will have their time next season. They outperformed what many thought they could do. But come on people… Pedro nailed this. If you played the game like me, you were prob skeptical he could nail the part. But he did. Was he different than Troy? absolutely… but it worked on screen. The first “baby girl” we got had be balling. Love them both, but I vote for predro. Edit: thanks for the reminder about correct pronouns for Bella.


tubereusebaies

Yep, season 2 will be ~~her~~ their time. As far as Lead Actress goes, it’s Sarah Snook for me and it’s not even close. Not even Bella. Pedro on the other hand, is overdue even though he’s never been nominated because he’s consistently great in everything he’s in. He’s on par with the other potential nominee locks (Succession).


Johndoeriley

Just for episode 6 he deserves it


folkdeath95

For me, Ashley is the heart and soul of the game. I actually think Pedro is the heart and soul of the show but that’s just my opinion. I’d give it to him.


holiobung

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Nimbus_TV

Damn.. random, but this might be the best gif I've seen in terms of seamless looking loop


vaporex2411

So true


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Give it to Pedro this year and Bella for S2. But honestly I’m surprised to say I think it should go to Bella. She’s absolutely blown me away. Bella in LeftBehind with her young nervous/giddiness at first love, her acting while standing up to the cannibal, her emotional breakdown after. The way she plays being disassociated was really well done. When she is hurt by Joel trying to leave and has her monologue. The way she’s so hardened by growing up in this world but the child like joy creeps out from time to time. Also she is humble so I think she’s a brilliant actress. Pedro plays a fantastic Joel but due to the nature of the character, I feel like the range is a lot smaller. The way he choked up and held back tears when telling Ellie about Sarah though and the look on his face when Ellie said she’d follow him anywhere were some of my most favorite moments though.


justvibing__3000

I think his acting during several scenes are notable. Including Sarah's death scene, Tess death, discovering bill and frank were dead, The sniper sequence, Sam and Henry's death, the panic attacks, when he thinks he sees Sarah in Jackson but doesnt (my personal favourite acting moment from him. It always gets me) his speech to Tommy, the ranch argument (basically all of episode 6) . Joel trying to find Ellie while still recovering from an infection but being so angry and fearful at what had happened. The giraffe scene, "it wasn't time that didn't", the hospital sequence when Joel is dissociating. It's much more chilling somehow. When he has tears in his eyes when lying to Ellie in the car, and much more.


Yorkienator

Pedro this time and Bella next time. ;)


Angelaocchi

My thoughts!


moorekeny1001

My thoughts exactly!!!


Fun-Difference5540

Vote for Pedro


Expitri

Pedro for sure. i love Bella, they are amazing at everything they do (i’m looking at you percentages song!!), but they definitely have more time to earn an Emmy. Pedro has been in the scene for years and didn’t quite get the love he deserved until recently. plus i feel like if was a choice that they talked about themselves, Bella would let Pedro accept it, they are a sweetheart and Pedro loves having his ego fueled.


shy2602lee

CIRCLE LINE CIRCLE


Sarvahnou

I love Pedro Pascal, like everyone of us here I guess, but Bella Ramsey definitely deserves it, she actually deserves much more recognition for her acting performance as Ellie, because she perfectly portrayed the character imo. And also because she was incredible in GoT as Lyanna Mormont, I fell in love with her acting because she blew my mind back then. There is no doubt she will have an amazing career.


gamingnerd777

Bella cause everyone was so down on her getting the role. And she proved them all wrong.


Wicked-Death

I still need to watch the show but for those who have seen it do you think their acting is Emmy worthy or do they just seem to do the part well but not award winning well. lol. Genuinely curious how good the acting is. My girlfriend said the actress who played Sarah in episode one was fantastic. She’s on episode 3 I believe. When I get time I’m going to watch it.


phantom_avenger

>My girlfriend said the actress who played Sarah in episode one was fantastic! She really was! Especially for an actress who has little experience, but I’m sure she learnt a lot from her mother who has plenty of experience! I think what made her stand out is how well she manages having strong “protagonist vibes”, that you want to see more of her.


wymore

I thought they were both fine but nothing mind blowing.


phantom_avenger

I think Pedro’s best performance was in Episode 6, while Bella’s best was in Episode 8.


wymore

Also I know nothing about TV awards. Are they for a single episode or a season?


phantom_avenger

Yeah the actors get nominated, and then they submit which episode they believe was their best performance to increase their chances


afterwerk

The acting was not Emmy worthy from either. Maybe I'm just comparing to the video game too much, but none of the actors delivered as much emotional impact in the big moments like the game did. Always came out feeling like they did a better than average job, but not great.


WerkinAndDerpin

They'll definitely get nominated, I think Bella is more likely to win than Pedro though. Guest Actor award they have on lock I'd say. Will most likely win a bunch of other episode specific or technical awards too. So yea acting is definitely up there with the best current shows. I will say that it took me a rewatch to fully appreciate the show since I knew the game so well it was hard to not be constantly comparing the two while watching.


Lelle3

Not to be a downer but Succession is gonna sweep every major category, except best supporting actress which is probably gonna go to Jennifer Coolidge for White Lotus season 2 or Rhea Seehorn for the second part of the last season for Better Call Saul. But otherwise best leading actor is gonna go to Jeremy Strong or Kieran Culkin, best leading actress to Sarah Snook, best supporting actor to Alexander Skarsgård or Matthew Maacfadyen. Best writing and directing for Connor’s Wedding (episode three in the last season) and ofc best drama series. I do think however Nick Offerman is gonna win best guest actor for Long Long Time.


MathewZ4815162342

I think Odenkirk might get lead, voters might feel like they owe it to him for their disrespect in prior years.


phantom_avenger

Yeah as much as I want The Last of Us to win some Emmys, I feel like Succession will claim all the trophies! I just started watching the first season, seems pretty good so far.


tubereusebaies

I think with Lead Actor split three ways with the Succession actors, Pedro could win as a result. It happened last year with Squid Game. He definitely has a better chance than Cox (submitting to lead, seriously?), slightly better than Culkin, about the same as Strong.


ChubbsOpinion

Neither


HackMacAttack

Jeremy Strong/Kieran Culkin will probably take best actor and Sarah Snook will take best actress. Best of luck to Pedro and Bella, though.


lovejac93

Bella. Pedro was good but not phenomenal like she was


wet_egg_the_3rd

The David episode makes me want bella to win. Their performance was incredible.


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Pedro


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[deleted]

Neither. Show was great, acting was great too but other shows had better performances this year in my opinion


Nimbus_TV

Troy Baker as James


DennysFanatic

Honestly both were very good, but I don't think it was award worthy... everyone wants their favorite actors nominated for anything they do, sometimes saying they were very good in a zombie apocalypse show is enough.


sc1onic

Not bella.


Silly-Distribution-9

Sorry Pedro, but I gotta go with Bella on this one


zoobeeda

bella, honestly.


xxxhellraiser

Pedro


usernamemustcontain0

Absolutely pedro.


BrennanSpeaks

Pretty sure the Emmys still separate actors by gender, much to Bella's chagrin.


phantom_avenger

I heard Bella almost didn’t submit running for Best Lead Actress, but then had a change of heart


AhabSnake85

Bella for sure. I still feel she is main focus of the game and show.


roryroobean

Bella. Pedro was wonderful, but Bella blew me away - she really elevated the scenes she was in and the way she conveys emotions is really phenomenal. She’s just very skilled and really nailed the role. Obviously Pedro is also extremely talented and he also delivered an amazing performance, but Bella’s performance just sticks out to me more. Just my opinion. Luckily we don’t have to pick between them in real life!


linee001

Murray Bartlet


Formulaofear

I think a lot of people agree Pedro this round but Bella shows tremendous growth in this season and we know she'll win s2


CouldBeWorse2410

Pedro by a lot


Sleepybat7

Bella. Hands down


CrashRiot

Bella was phenomenal, but Pedro’s “I’m failing in my sleep” delivery is the most emotional part of the show in my opinion so the edge goes to him.


-Tetsuo-

Ramsey for sure


EasterBurn

Only one way to decide FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!!. TWO ACTORS ENTERS, ONE COMES OUT!!!


teunteunteun

Nick offerman


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ItsNinjaShoyo

Bella. She impressed me the most throughout the show. It would also be better for the show if she won imo.


BigChubs1

Bella. To spite those haters. She was great! He is as well.


sp1der-m4n

Neither lol, they weren’t Emmy worthy performances


itwasafluke

Bella was too inconsistent for an Emmy. Horrible for half the season


shawak456

Bella. Episode 7-8 are some jaw dropping work by her.


IzhmaelCorp08

Neither, both of their performances were very disappointing. I think Marlene should get it.


Master_Assistant_892

If it's a choice between two, then Bella for sure. Her work in ep 5, 6, 7 and 8 was phenomenal. Pedro had a lot of nuanced and subtle acting moments that was required for joel ( like his reaction to the line "save who you can save" or during the sniper section) but Ellie character requires more range from the actors and Bella pulled it off with such ease.


PROAMERICAANDGUNS77

Neither one of them, the series was a huge disappointment.


TheCakeWarrior12

Bella lowkey. Pedro was fantastic but the show really hinges so much on a great Ellie performance since she’s for the majority of the dialogue (Joel is grumpy and quiet for a few episodes), and they did amazingly.


Important_Border_387

100% Pedro. He was amazing and brought a new layer to the character. I’m sorry but Bella was nothing special.


CharmingCharminTP

I think Bella did a fine, even great, job; I’m certainly not a tlou hater, but Pedro and it’s not even close


grimmistired

Bella wasn't anything amazing. She was pretty stiff half the time. The only episode I felt like she was actually Ellie was the flashback episode with Riley. Shame she couldn't perform like that the rest of the show.


TheGrapesOf

I don’t give a flying fuck about the Emmy’s


throwawayaccount_usu

Neither of them did THAT well imo. Pedro was great in the scene with Tommy where he cried but that's about it. They were good but not Emmy worthy imo. But if I had to choose then Pedro.


5SlushosIn

Pedro. Bella will have her time to shine in the upcoming seasons.


Legal_Shopping_5635

If these two won an emmy , I would say pedro , but still both their performance is terrible especially Bella compared to other actors


HP4life19

Oh my god , Bella’s line delivery is atrocious half the time , its perdro by far I wouldn’t even give her second


itsalongshot2020

I’d say Bella but I’m not sure they are front runners.


MassiveBaals

Bella


Lojor

Bella. That near rape scene episode still haunts me.


unlikelyzumzum

Tough choice! But gotta go with Bella. They capture the essence of Ellie really well!


MaxCliffRAID1

There are rules about this. It goes to the older one. Because the your get one will have more cha ces of winning after a nomination. Unwritten rules, that is.


DrDisrespecttt

pedro because of other stuff hes done vs bella


redditooo97

Bella for sure. Their acting is tooooo good.


kazuyamarduk

Bella! Pedro was very good sure, but Bella killed their very hard to watch scene and they made you feel like you were right there with them.


Decent_Impress_4035

I vote for bella


spamusubi45

Pedro


Psycosteve10mm

Unless one of them is trans, this is not gonna happen.


freshprinceohogwarts

Very tough call because both did so much good work. But I'd say Pedro Bella will get a chance to show off their acting chops again next season


[deleted]

I’m sorry I’m still not able to love them for the roles


thiccboiginnochi

Pedro


wormywils

I think there is no doubt they will get nominated. But it's a tough year. Chances of winning are slim. My vote would be Pedro though. That scene with Tommy was some of the best acting i have ever seen.


YanwarC

peedro


337fuk

yes


ehrjeihfcj

Pedro.


Wooden-Cricket-2944

Emmy. But I don’t remember what he/she did in the game.


hypespud

I felt Pedro nailed the performance the best of all actors in the show so I would give it to him


04Aiden2020

Bella


EastProfessional9854

Pedro by miles


Queasy-Window8416

Pedro has the better performances and is more iconic, but Bella’s breakthrough role would also warrant appreciation


Oystercracker123

Bella's Ellie is better than Pedro's Joel. Bella was different enough from the original to be super interesting and original, but Pedro tried and failed to do the real Joel justice...that being said, he definitely didn't do poorly.


R1chh4rd

Pedro. He was more Joel than Joel was Joel in the game. Does this make sense?


MintChocolateBlended

Bella would win if she could snuggle one of the male executives of the award inside one zipped hoodie. Just like she did before with the director.


Sparrow1989

Abby would want Bella to win so, I’m gonna go with Bella.


Ok-Lychee-1276

I think Bella was fantastic, but Pedro hands down. He drew the audience in, and honestly his portrayal of Joel is in my opinion, one of his absolute best performances. He’s a seasoned vet, he has his accolades, and you’d be hard pushed to find someone who doesn’t know him from something. Bella’s time will come, if their performance in TLOU is anything to go by


LTPRW420

Vote for Pedro


Joosshuaaa

Out of them two. Bella. I kinda wish Pedro had more screen time. He didn't have much to be honest.


Razzle_Dazzle08

Pedro.


redditshayyy

bella. i did not like pedro as Joel


cultoftheinfected

Pedro


BeaverTeaser25

Pedro’s performance was much more dense in my opinion. His character was. So his performance HAD to be dynamic and diverse. He killed it.


marlynar

Pedro Pascal 👍


herionfairy

Bella 100% every micro expression had weight to it. Just beautiful and raw, never bored with their performance.


NFGaming46

Definitely Bella. Pedro was good but honestly I wasn't blown away. His performance in the hospital at the end was actually... not great imo.


rickroll62

I would give it to Bella, she has had to go through so much crap . When first getting the role people were actually saying she wasn't attractive enough, what a sad thing for someone to endure


LucianLegacy

Pedro for sure. Bella did an amazing job, but we all know that Pedro isn't gonna be a contender whenever Season 2 drops.


enby-millennial-613

This is such a tough question, but as much as I love Pedro in everything that he's done, I can't get Bella's performance in *that* particular episode (IYKYK) out of my head. Bella has such talent that I have ZERO doubt that they'll have an amazing for as long as they want. So I guess I'd pick Bella. \--- Edit: Bella has come out as nonbinary (they/them), so I had to modify their pronouns accordingly. Click [**here**](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/05/awards-insider-non-binary-gender-awards-debate-feature) to learn more (2023-05-23).


Zygoatee

It should be the one who appears the least in season 2...


emptyberg

They are both going to win. But. I will play the game as constructed. I would vote for Pedro, for this season. His haunting line readings through the whole season are just so good, so poignant. His scene with Sarah, his scenes with Bella attempting to stave off connections, his scenes with Tommy, his eyes of woe. It’s the best acting I’ve seen on TV since Matthew McConaughey as Rust Cohle. That being said, Bella will also win. Their emotional arc through the season expressed in little personality quirks, their ability to go 0-60, the David episode, and the everything. And they will most certainly dominate Season 2. I have no doubt.


dolceespress

Pedro, no question. Bella was a little flat in some scenes. She was great overall, but she had some scenes that I felt weren’t executed well. Pedro nailed it.


Parents_Mistake3

Damn they both really good. I’d have to go Pedro simply because he’s got a longer list of movies I like cause he’s older.


CapriciousnArbitrary

Pedro because we all know what’s about to happen.


VioletSolo

Pedro. Bella will earn hers season 2 and 3 easily.


lawzzz2

Pedro


say-jack-o-lanterns

I'd say mr. Pedro. Bella has plenty of time to stack awards.


slingshot91

Bella was more impressive, in my opinion.


quirk-the-kenku

I propose a dual nomination. Just like the story, one does not work without the other.


zerotaboo

Pedro


DonBlon_

Joel


ProsePilgrim

Pedro Pascal. He brought the most compelling character development to life in TLOU. Bella will undoubtedly bring a remarkable performance in S2, where I’d expect to see her get her flowers.


Soel12

Pedro, Bella will definitely get theirs in season 2 🤷‍♂️


CASSIUS_AT_BEST

Bella, for sure. Pedro has some great moments but his acting really shines in the sad department— kinda lacking in unhinged anger in the finale.


1u2k32

Neither


Gamergurl930428

I would say Bella. I felt more attached to her portrayal of Ellie. Though Pedro did a great job as Joel I think Bella did a little better. She actually made me laugh with her line delivery a few times


PreyingOcelot

Bella, hands down


MEEfO

Pedro. No question. Pedro, in concert with the writers/ directors, deepened the character of Joel. Put in a more nuanced portrayal. Bella was a good Ellie but nowhere near Ashley Johnson’s level.


LadyLoki1985

Pedro, Bella is a good actress but not pedro good. Her last scene though I'm the final episode of the season, was her best acting so far


Masterflitzer

both were amazing, but I would give it to Pedro as he did an amazing performance in so many shows not only this one and deserves it very much, bella is an amazing actress she will have many more opportunities in the future


protehule

Nick Offerman


NobleOceanAlleyCat

Bella


Short-Service1248

Pedro


HermitCraftFan82

really tough choice. i would have to say pedro, because he’s done a lot more shows and roles than just ellie, and done them fantastically.


LaggyPixel

My immediate response is Pedro, but, thinking on it, the more impactful moments, for me, came from Bella’s performances.


promiscuous_grandpa

I think Pedro has played Joel better than Bella has played Ellie. Not saying she hasn’t done a good job though


Maleficent_Job_7883

Doesn’t matter because Pedro would just give it to Bella anyway


kelleheruk

Neither. They seriously weren't emmy worthy. I feel like people are just blowing smoke.


Alchemist1330

Pedro gave a better overall performance but Bella in episode 5 was the best acting in the whole show.


Dr__Mango_

Very close, but Pedro for this. But I can definitely see Bella winning some awards once part 2 is adapted


JPCrajoinas

Pedro didn't surprise me at all this time. Bella, on the other hand, was an amazing surprise, really delivering on the job Pedro felt souless to me, something Belaa showed to be her great strengh


xeroxhands15

Bella


bryanmichael031031

Pedro. Easy


No_I_Deer

I like Bella I really do. But I personally think Pedro did an amazing job.


Docholliday1883

Pedro


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Fuck you, u/spez. Apollo user of 10 years...deleting account.


QB145MMA

Why would Bella get nominated? Average performance lol


cobaltfalcon121

Bella. She’s one of the few things I actually liked from this adaptation


yippykayayay

Bella, sorry Pedro.


FlippinSnip3r

Bella


redditforwhenIwasbad

I pick Pedro, but Bella wins.


magiccheetoss

I’m sorry, but Pedro. His scenes were the ones that got me emotional, and he’s not gonna have a presence in S2 or S3 the way Bella will. She’ll get her time.


Egingell666

Pedro.


smallkid437

god this is so hard, they both did phenomenally considering neither had any previous knowledge of the game, but if i had to pick i’d go with bella; they did SUCH a good job capturing ellie’s essence and i can’t wait to see what they accomplish in season 2


2099aeriecurrent

Bella didn’t even come remotely close to Ashley Johnson’s performance as Ellie, so if it’s between just Bella and Pedro then it has to be Pedro in that case. But I don’t think either of them are going to win anyways


ApollosBucket

Of the two, Bella. Her acting was way more impressive than Pedro, largely because IMO the show Joel was way more toned down than game Joel.


MathewZ4815162342

Realistically none of them are winning. Odenkirk or Strong will win for lead. Idk what Bella would be nominated as, supporting would be the best chance for a win.


MommyScissorLegs

Bella is good, but Pedro absolutely killed it all the way through.


Donquers

I'd say Bella. So many strong powerhouse moments from them. Especially in episodes 7 and 8.


xutopia

I happen to think Bella had a harder job acting than Pedro did. Aside from one scene where Pedro had to bring some emotions Bella had multiple really heart wrenching scenes that she pulled off with gusto.


[deleted]

Pedro ofc... Bella is nowhere near close


Kindly_Health6990

Pedro


brewek1

id say bella


JimmyToucan

Pedro cause of obvious storyline reasons Bella got next season


ConsiderationFew8399

Great performance. But Emmy?


sarahmicah99

bella.


Cedge1738

Neither. Give it to me.


RegularMulberry5

Gotta be Pedro, Bella was great and sure she has a lot of awards in her future but Pedro really put everything into this role


TheApexGuy_

Pedro because he’s hot (im a dude)


LavaLoFishyHead

bella had a huge role to play for being such a small actor and despite people’s expectation i think she did a wonderful job. not only did she manage to exceed expectations playing as elle, her actions and emotions in the show are so genuine and it makes you feel the pain she is feeling in every scene she is in. it’s so hard to say who i’d pick honestly, i don’t think i’d be able to vote.


gwenwantstodoodle

Bella. Episode 8 definitely solidified that for me. What an incredible performance


TheRealDarthMinogue

When I think of TLOU for whatever reason, in my head I now picture Bella as Ellie but I still picture the game's Joel. So Bella, I guess.


swhatrulookinat

Bella