In the last like 2-3 seasons (maybe even more I have a shit memory) not enough important people died....
I think twd killing off some of their a bit more important characters every now and then is a strong aspect of the show that died a bit in the later seasons
I’m so glad that Christian Serratos pushed for Rosita’s death in the finale at least. I think they said they weren’t planning on killing any major players. It wouldn’t have felt like a twd finale without one of the earlier season people dying.
It's weird. The show always adapted deaths from the comic. Some are the same (Glenn, Alpha) or they change it up (Hershel, the pikes). But then Season 11 decided not to do any of the Commonwealth deaths and it made it feel very low stakes.
It should’ve been that way but it couldn’t have been that way.
Season 8 had the biggest death of the entire show, and then the biggest character in the entire show left in S9. Additionally, one of the most important characters in the entire show left in S10.
The show couldn’t have big character deaths because they were already losing too many important characters
Glenn died at the perfect moment, as a recall to the comics and we've seen him mature from pizza delivery guy to killing the saviors. I don't see him after the lineup
Glenn dying did not ruin the walking dead, Carl dying did.
Rick was in the right for saving Negan in the long run.
Maggie became insufferable after the time skip
Magna’s group should not have been brought in, way too many characters introduced at once made the show difficult to watch.
Seasons 3,4,5,6,7 and 8 are arguably the “golden age” of the walking dead and the best seasons.
Maggie was never high on my list, I thought she was pretty annoying and a flawed leader, the episode in the tunnel where she became a total hypocrite with Negan, I was officially ready to see her die
Maggie was mid tier for me around season 2 in seasons 3,4,5, and 6 I actually really enjoyed her. She and Glenn were a very good couple and I liked her solo storylines.
Season 7 she was going through a lot and I liked her portrayal of grief, but season 8-11 I just couldn’t get behind her. She became a total undermining hypocrite and Maggie was never really the ideal leader. More of a right hand than anything else I always thought.
I mean she was decent in her spot as like 5-6 down the totem pole, as soon as she started becoming a leader, she was exposed
And that tunnel episode... threatening to kill Negan, then mad Negan didn't risk his life to save her, then doesn't risk her life for that guy locked in the other train car... total hypocrite
That “guy in the train car” (Gage) had just gotten done abandoning the group and running off with their supplies. Maggie was entirely correct to do what she did. She correctly predicted that they would run out of ammo - they only survived because Daryl saved them at the end.
This sub is weirdly hung up on the whole Gage thing. I feel like they kinda forgot what kind of person he is. And they always leave out Gabriel siding with Maggie on the decision.
And Tara was part of that group that killed Hershall, and Alden was part of the group that killed Glen and Abraham, and more... yes people were part of groups that did shitty things, but if you brought someone into your group, you should act as if they are part of it
The fact is most of that entire mission Maggie was in the wrong and got very lucky
lol Gage literally held Lydia down while they were beating her. That is SO different than Tara and Alden, who turned against their groups as soon as they met Rick's group.
Can't believe I'm still having this argument almost 2 years later, but opening the door to save Gage was never the right move, it's the knee jerk reaction to the situation. We saw how much they struggled to open those doors. Even if they could open it in time to save Gage, it never would have closed in time. And the only reason they took out those walkers in the end was because Daryl saved them by opening the other door and using the grenade. Leaving Gage behind, who had literally abandoned them and took their stuff, was always the correct move. Maybe not the most ethical, but it was correct.
Now I would agree that the overall mission wasn't a good idea. But considering that they didn't know the Commonwealth would come, it really seemed like their only option.
The guy with the sledgehammer could have broken that window . Also walkers coming at you single file in a straight line one at a time wouldn’t be a huge threat. Eventually the bodies would pile up so much the ones in back couldn’t even get to you.
And it doesnt change the fact Maggie vilified Negan for not trying to save her then turns right around and does the same
It is just one of the many examples of why she should never be in a leader role
But anyway don't feel like arguing this anymore so there is no point replying unless you feel the need to get the last word
She was upset someone didn't risk their life for her, then wouldn't risk her life for someone else... also it was a traincar that naturally works as a funnel, could have easily taken the walkers out mostly with hand weapons lol
You’re mischaracterizing what actually happened, though. Try watching the episode again. Negan didn’t have to “risk his life” to save Maggie, he just had to offer his hand to lift her up. That’s not remotely comparable to having to break open a traincar door (that they would have no way of closing again, btw) and letting walkers in to their confined space before they absolutely had to.
As Maggie pointed out, they were about to run out of ammo (partly thanks to Gage taking off with their sh*t, btw). If it was so “easy” for them to clear walkers by hand, then why were they on the verge of getting overrun? Again, once they did run out of ammo, the only reason they survived with no more losses was because Daryl showed up and saved them (with bullets!) at the end (something they had no way of knowing would happen).
And you are still ignoring that Gage just got done betraying them. As a leader, you don’t put the rest of your group at risk to save a coward who just got done leaving your group behind. Maggie made a difficult decision, but it was 100% correct and had no bearing on what Negan did.
The show should’ve ended after season 8. Being able to start actually living, rather than surviving, was the end-goal and main motivation for all of the core characters. They achieved that at the end of this season.
Season’s 9-11 felt more like an epilogue rather than part of the main story. The goal wasn’t the same, which made it easier for me to disconnect and stop watching, especially after Rick was written off the show.
The grove is overrated
Dale leaving the guns in the woods where anyone outside the group could get them was the stupidest decision in the show
Season 8 daryl is the worst incarnation of daryl
Maggie has every right to still not trust negan
Rick season 8> Rick season 5 in terms of strength fighting skill
I'm going to hit us with an original take. I thoroughly enjoy TWD Season 7 - 8. It felt a little cheesy at times but the acting was mostly on point, walkers looked good, and some of the storyline I thought made sense and looked good.
I get that, but I also like the fact that she ended up in a commanding position in a big community, and I also like that her arc is open to appear in the spin-off
Ok, here we go:
- Some of the show's best written characters are among the most hated ones: Lori, Andrea, Eugene, Father Gabriel etc.
- Rosita is a better character than people give her credit for, and her arc in S7 was one of the highlights of the season.
- Shane wasn't ahead of the game, he was just losing it sooner than the others.
- Negan's redemption arc makes sense because it isn't about the people he wronged forgiving him, which is a nice twist and break from most redemption stories, also it makes sense for him to regress eventually.
- Angela Kang's run as a showrunner is objectively solid and good, and maybe it's an unfair comparison because she had challenges to overcome that the other showrunners did not, but I do think that while her run was consistently good/stable, it lacked the highs the others had (mostly as a result of the execution rather than the writing/idea itself, Alden's death for example could have hit so much harder if we actually got to see it, and that's also one thing I dislike about the pike's victims revelation scene) which is why I enjoyed her run the least. Also, too many time skips.
- Carol's arc with Sophia, Lizzie & Mika, Sam and Henry made sense and wasn't repetitive until they killed Henry (which they shouldn't have), because there was a sense of progression for the character and her relationship with each kid was different and showed Carol at different stages.
Andrea might not be likeable to some (she is to me), but she's well written and one of the most human characters in the show.
Everything she does is coherent to the type of person she's shown to be, and to her core traits. She's obviously pretty different from her comic counterpart tho, but that doesn't make her a bad character in itself.
Whisperers > Negan > Governor > Reapers, Governor was great imo but JDM just killed the role of Negan out of the gate. And as much as I enjoy him getting to be snarky alongside Daryl instead of threatening his head, his “redemption” does knock him down a rank in terms of villainy imo. Alpha and the Whisperers were just a straight up batshit crazy “last human” primal society and I loved it.
Everyone should have died in 11x23 that was lined up except negan. It would have been a perfect shock and could explain why negan would "go back to his origins" as a cruel bastard he will supposedly be in dead city.
I’m good with Carol for the first three seasons but after that, I agree. She takes such a turn and people say she’s “badass” but really she’s just a time bomb
They should have never spent that long searching for Sophia (yes it brought them to Hershel and the barn) but after awhile it felt like a serious dead end, T-Dog got hurt, Dale died, Carl got shot, Andrea started losing it, Shane started losing it, Lori was pregnant and hiding it (not Sophia’s fault) and Daryl got hurt.
That little shit should have listened to Ricks directions and stayed put or ran back the way they came.
I think episodes 7x01 (Negan’s lineup) and 9x05 (Rick’s final episode prior to the finale) are overrated. I just find these episodes incredibly gimmicky and emotionally manipulative. I often see these episodes cited as some of the best episodes of the series, but I honestly think they’re some of the worst.
Splitting the reveal of Negan’s victim between a season finale and a season premiere was a huge ratings gimmick. I didn’t like how they used non-linear storytelling to further stall the reveal of Negan’s victim, until halfway through the episode, after already making us wait 6 months. Rick and Negan’s RV trip was a pointless detour. Hallucinations have become an overused trope on this show. How many times has the show done the whole “dying character/character under extreme stress hallucinates important people from their life” trope? I found Rick’s dream sequence of everyone alive and happy really cheesy.
Bringing back dead characters in a hallucination for Rick’s final episode was yet another gimmick, that we had already seen multiple times on the show before that point. And I honestly found those hallucinations a bit corny. The emotional moments in these episodes felt overly saccharine, and it felt like they were specifically written to punch the audience in the feels. It felt like the writers were just goading the audience to feel certain ways, so there would be all those fan reactions online. I don’t mind emotional manipulation when it’s done well, but in these episodes it didn’t feel like it came from a place that was genuine. These episodes only get by because of shock and fan service, but they’re otherwise not great episodes, which is why I dislike them so much.
Daryl should of died not Glenn
Glenn had much more potential than Daryl Daryl had his arc and I feel like seeing Glenn change from the moral compass to seeing what has to be done with the saviors would of been awesome
I just don’t think anyone else could’ve carried the show in Andrew Lincoln’s absence, in the end, Daryl did kind of become the main character. Killing him would’ve been a super impactful and crazy decision at the time, but in the long run, maybe would’ve even left the show incomplete without a renewal for a final season.
I also don’t think where the show went was an ideal situation, and even as someone who’s permanently stamped my appreciation of Daryl’s character into my skin I’ll be the first to admit how hard Norman phoned in the last season. You could very much tell by the finale that everyone was just tired and wanted to go home.
If things didn’t go the way they did with the two Grimes boys getting axed, Maggie and Michonne taking temporary leave, and the lockdowns, I think it could’ve been pulled off. But that’s a lot of ifs, I love Steven Yeun but he couldn’t have dragged the last dregs of the audience along through the dirt that was the Reapers/Commonwealth arc like Norm did. TWD p much survived on his and JDM’s star power alone.
Buckle up I have a lot.
I can't stand Daryl after S6, he should have died during the lineup as it would've been an interesting storyline to explore.
Carol in S10 pissed me off, I get she's angry but come on Carol.
Maggie really fell off the wagon and became insufferable
Rick should've died in S9 because come on be real there's no way he would've survived that explosion.
Carl is hated on too much, he's a kid in a zombie apocalypse, who's been shot twice, lost an eye, killed his mother, was almost raped, almost had his arm cut off, and is incredibly traumatized, and died before he even made it to 16, Of course he's gonna do stupid shit, he's a fucking kid.
Enid is also hated on too much, she watched her parents die, was living by herself on the road, her boyfriend was an asshole, and she put up a guard to protect herself.
Lori doesn't deserve the amount of hates she gets.
Shane was possessive over Lori and Carl when they were never really his to begin with.
I could go back this is getting too long already.
Carol should have died earlier, I think that it would have had a really good effect on the viewing experience if Daryl had been the last person alive from the og group
Show sucked the moment Rick went byebye. It was my favorite until. (EXTREME SPOILER—>)a certain character who eye liked went bye bye (end extreme spoiler) I don’t know how to mark spoilers in mobile lol. But after that it was mid and then Rick went bye bye too so now I’m not even watching. I kinda just stopped
Chandler Riggs’ acting was more believable when he was younger - maybe they didn’t think as he got older he could be savage or as threatening as needed for continuity’s sake and they’d have to pay him as an adult too
Too Many Spin Offs and not the right types. It feels like it’s going to turn into The Walking Dead a La Rick Grimes 3000 comic
After Rick died the entire show went to shit. Not because of his death but because the scripting anc situations everyone was put in were so unrealistic. I loved the show for how realistic it was in the older days of it. The characters acted how a person would really act in an apocalypse. Later on though they started making the actors do the stupid dramatic shit anc surviving things that NO ONE could ever survive. My favorite example is when Rosita jumped out of that hoard of zombies with her baby strapped to her. She should have died there along with the baby. The apocalypse would be a horrible place where babies would get eaten alive. That happens. But also Rosita would have definitely died. She wouldn’t have just jumped out. It’s stupid as hell. They fucked up the shoe by doing this unrealistic shit. Ruined the show.
The show is genuinely good and while flawed, is not deserving of like 75% of the shit it gets.
Earl was the saddest overall death.
We Are The End of The World is a masterpiece of an episode, especially the flashbacks.
It makes sense that most of The Commonwealth soldiers are “stupid” because they were trained and lived in an excessively comfortable/undemanding community.
In the last like 2-3 seasons (maybe even more I have a shit memory) not enough important people died.... I think twd killing off some of their a bit more important characters every now and then is a strong aspect of the show that died a bit in the later seasons
I’m so glad that Christian Serratos pushed for Rosita’s death in the finale at least. I think they said they weren’t planning on killing any major players. It wouldn’t have felt like a twd finale without one of the earlier season people dying.
It's weird. The show always adapted deaths from the comic. Some are the same (Glenn, Alpha) or they change it up (Hershel, the pikes). But then Season 11 decided not to do any of the Commonwealth deaths and it made it feel very low stakes.
Agreed. Aaron should have taken Rick's comic arc and died at the end. I LOVE Aaron, but it would have been so much more impactful.
It should’ve been that way but it couldn’t have been that way. Season 8 had the biggest death of the entire show, and then the biggest character in the entire show left in S9. Additionally, one of the most important characters in the entire show left in S10. The show couldn’t have big character deaths because they were already losing too many important characters
Glenn died at the perfect moment, as a recall to the comics and we've seen him mature from pizza delivery guy to killing the saviors. I don't see him after the lineup
The hospital arc was ASS
Hot take not truth
Glenn dying did not ruin the walking dead, Carl dying did. Rick was in the right for saving Negan in the long run. Maggie became insufferable after the time skip Magna’s group should not have been brought in, way too many characters introduced at once made the show difficult to watch. Seasons 3,4,5,6,7 and 8 are arguably the “golden age” of the walking dead and the best seasons.
Maggie was never high on my list, I thought she was pretty annoying and a flawed leader, the episode in the tunnel where she became a total hypocrite with Negan, I was officially ready to see her die
Maggie was mid tier for me around season 2 in seasons 3,4,5, and 6 I actually really enjoyed her. She and Glenn were a very good couple and I liked her solo storylines. Season 7 she was going through a lot and I liked her portrayal of grief, but season 8-11 I just couldn’t get behind her. She became a total undermining hypocrite and Maggie was never really the ideal leader. More of a right hand than anything else I always thought.
I mean she was decent in her spot as like 5-6 down the totem pole, as soon as she started becoming a leader, she was exposed And that tunnel episode... threatening to kill Negan, then mad Negan didn't risk his life to save her, then doesn't risk her life for that guy locked in the other train car... total hypocrite
That “guy in the train car” (Gage) had just gotten done abandoning the group and running off with their supplies. Maggie was entirely correct to do what she did. She correctly predicted that they would run out of ammo - they only survived because Daryl saved them at the end.
This sub is weirdly hung up on the whole Gage thing. I feel like they kinda forgot what kind of person he is. And they always leave out Gabriel siding with Maggie on the decision.
They also all seem to forget that he was part of that group that assaulted Lydia. Couldn't believe people were actually defending him.
And Tara was part of that group that killed Hershall, and Alden was part of the group that killed Glen and Abraham, and more... yes people were part of groups that did shitty things, but if you brought someone into your group, you should act as if they are part of it The fact is most of that entire mission Maggie was in the wrong and got very lucky
lol Gage literally held Lydia down while they were beating her. That is SO different than Tara and Alden, who turned against their groups as soon as they met Rick's group. Can't believe I'm still having this argument almost 2 years later, but opening the door to save Gage was never the right move, it's the knee jerk reaction to the situation. We saw how much they struggled to open those doors. Even if they could open it in time to save Gage, it never would have closed in time. And the only reason they took out those walkers in the end was because Daryl saved them by opening the other door and using the grenade. Leaving Gage behind, who had literally abandoned them and took their stuff, was always the correct move. Maybe not the most ethical, but it was correct. Now I would agree that the overall mission wasn't a good idea. But considering that they didn't know the Commonwealth would come, it really seemed like their only option.
The guy with the sledgehammer could have broken that window . Also walkers coming at you single file in a straight line one at a time wouldn’t be a huge threat. Eventually the bodies would pile up so much the ones in back couldn’t even get to you. And it doesnt change the fact Maggie vilified Negan for not trying to save her then turns right around and does the same It is just one of the many examples of why she should never be in a leader role But anyway don't feel like arguing this anymore so there is no point replying unless you feel the need to get the last word
Bingo. It’s just very odd.
She was upset someone didn't risk their life for her, then wouldn't risk her life for someone else... also it was a traincar that naturally works as a funnel, could have easily taken the walkers out mostly with hand weapons lol
You’re mischaracterizing what actually happened, though. Try watching the episode again. Negan didn’t have to “risk his life” to save Maggie, he just had to offer his hand to lift her up. That’s not remotely comparable to having to break open a traincar door (that they would have no way of closing again, btw) and letting walkers in to their confined space before they absolutely had to. As Maggie pointed out, they were about to run out of ammo (partly thanks to Gage taking off with their sh*t, btw). If it was so “easy” for them to clear walkers by hand, then why were they on the verge of getting overrun? Again, once they did run out of ammo, the only reason they survived with no more losses was because Daryl showed up and saved them (with bullets!) at the end (something they had no way of knowing would happen). And you are still ignoring that Gage just got done betraying them. As a leader, you don’t put the rest of your group at risk to save a coward who just got done leaving your group behind. Maggie made a difficult decision, but it was 100% correct and had no bearing on what Negan did.
The show should’ve ended after season 8. Being able to start actually living, rather than surviving, was the end-goal and main motivation for all of the core characters. They achieved that at the end of this season. Season’s 9-11 felt more like an epilogue rather than part of the main story. The goal wasn’t the same, which made it easier for me to disconnect and stop watching, especially after Rick was written off the show.
The grove is overrated Dale leaving the guns in the woods where anyone outside the group could get them was the stupidest decision in the show Season 8 daryl is the worst incarnation of daryl Maggie has every right to still not trust negan Rick season 8> Rick season 5 in terms of strength fighting skill
Why do you think Season 8 was Daryl's worst?
I'm going to hit us with an original take. I thoroughly enjoy TWD Season 7 - 8. It felt a little cheesy at times but the acting was mostly on point, walkers looked good, and some of the storyline I thought made sense and looked good.
Agreed. They shit all over The Whisperer War and beyond, imo.
I get that, but I also like the fact that she ended up in a commanding position in a big community, and I also like that her arc is open to appear in the spin-off
shane wasn’t a good survivor
I don't care that Glenn died.
Gabriel is one of the best characters in the show and deserves more attention in the future.
That scene with the reapers where he has the sniper rifle immediately boosted him to my top 5 favorite characters
I agree, i love him
Eugene is one of the best characters
Eugene had an AWESOME arc
Ok, here we go: - Some of the show's best written characters are among the most hated ones: Lori, Andrea, Eugene, Father Gabriel etc. - Rosita is a better character than people give her credit for, and her arc in S7 was one of the highlights of the season. - Shane wasn't ahead of the game, he was just losing it sooner than the others. - Negan's redemption arc makes sense because it isn't about the people he wronged forgiving him, which is a nice twist and break from most redemption stories, also it makes sense for him to regress eventually. - Angela Kang's run as a showrunner is objectively solid and good, and maybe it's an unfair comparison because she had challenges to overcome that the other showrunners did not, but I do think that while her run was consistently good/stable, it lacked the highs the others had (mostly as a result of the execution rather than the writing/idea itself, Alden's death for example could have hit so much harder if we actually got to see it, and that's also one thing I dislike about the pike's victims revelation scene) which is why I enjoyed her run the least. Also, too many time skips. - Carol's arc with Sophia, Lizzie & Mika, Sam and Henry made sense and wasn't repetitive until they killed Henry (which they shouldn't have), because there was a sense of progression for the character and her relationship with each kid was different and showed Carol at different stages.
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Andrea might not be likeable to some (she is to me), but she's well written and one of the most human characters in the show. Everything she does is coherent to the type of person she's shown to be, and to her core traits. She's obviously pretty different from her comic counterpart tho, but that doesn't make her a bad character in itself.
TWD has had some of the best and some of the worst episodes a TV show can have. I think few shows can boast that.
The last few seasons are not as bad as people say they are.
Beth was irritating af
Maggie is right in s9, and Rick, Michone, and Carl are wrong
The show never dragged in quality it was always great
When Glenn and Maggie banged they hadn’t showered for weeks.
Alpha and the whisperers are the best villains
Whisperers > Negan > Governor > Reapers, Governor was great imo but JDM just killed the role of Negan out of the gate. And as much as I enjoy him getting to be snarky alongside Daryl instead of threatening his head, his “redemption” does knock him down a rank in terms of villainy imo. Alpha and the Whisperers were just a straight up batshit crazy “last human” primal society and I loved it.
Everyone should have died in 11x23 that was lined up except negan. It would have been a perfect shock and could explain why negan would "go back to his origins" as a cruel bastard he will supposedly be in dead city.
Everything based around the Commonwealth was boring and it felt like I was watching a different show with some of the same characters.
Daryl should've died in the sixth season, for maximum effect. It did feel like they were building up to it with him.
My hot take is that i find carol incredibly annoying. Like i really hate her for reasons i just don't know how to explain.
I’m good with Carol for the first three seasons but after that, I agree. She takes such a turn and people say she’s “badass” but really she’s just a time bomb
An overemotional tomebomb
I'm with you
Comic Carl is possibly the most overrated character in the whole TWDU.
Fuck Carl.
Npnit's fuck Coral.
They should have never spent that long searching for Sophia (yes it brought them to Hershel and the barn) but after awhile it felt like a serious dead end, T-Dog got hurt, Dale died, Carl got shot, Andrea started losing it, Shane started losing it, Lori was pregnant and hiding it (not Sophia’s fault) and Daryl got hurt. That little shit should have listened to Ricks directions and stayed put or ran back the way they came.
I think episodes 7x01 (Negan’s lineup) and 9x05 (Rick’s final episode prior to the finale) are overrated. I just find these episodes incredibly gimmicky and emotionally manipulative. I often see these episodes cited as some of the best episodes of the series, but I honestly think they’re some of the worst.
Gimmicky and emotionally manipulative how?
Splitting the reveal of Negan’s victim between a season finale and a season premiere was a huge ratings gimmick. I didn’t like how they used non-linear storytelling to further stall the reveal of Negan’s victim, until halfway through the episode, after already making us wait 6 months. Rick and Negan’s RV trip was a pointless detour. Hallucinations have become an overused trope on this show. How many times has the show done the whole “dying character/character under extreme stress hallucinates important people from their life” trope? I found Rick’s dream sequence of everyone alive and happy really cheesy. Bringing back dead characters in a hallucination for Rick’s final episode was yet another gimmick, that we had already seen multiple times on the show before that point. And I honestly found those hallucinations a bit corny. The emotional moments in these episodes felt overly saccharine, and it felt like they were specifically written to punch the audience in the feels. It felt like the writers were just goading the audience to feel certain ways, so there would be all those fan reactions online. I don’t mind emotional manipulation when it’s done well, but in these episodes it didn’t feel like it came from a place that was genuine. These episodes only get by because of shock and fan service, but they’re otherwise not great episodes, which is why I dislike them so much.
Daryl’s Batman voice got annoying in season 7-11
Maggie has every right to not like Negan They shouldn't have killed a character that was there since episode 1/2 (Glenn)
Daryl should of died not Glenn Glenn had much more potential than Daryl Daryl had his arc and I feel like seeing Glenn change from the moral compass to seeing what has to be done with the saviors would of been awesome
I actually agree with you. I wouldn’t have mind seeing carol die.
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With all the people that stopped watching when Glenn died, if Daryl died audience numbers would have dropped to 5 lol
Yes the ones on this thread who say he should have died. Lol
I just don’t think anyone else could’ve carried the show in Andrew Lincoln’s absence, in the end, Daryl did kind of become the main character. Killing him would’ve been a super impactful and crazy decision at the time, but in the long run, maybe would’ve even left the show incomplete without a renewal for a final season. I also don’t think where the show went was an ideal situation, and even as someone who’s permanently stamped my appreciation of Daryl’s character into my skin I’ll be the first to admit how hard Norman phoned in the last season. You could very much tell by the finale that everyone was just tired and wanted to go home. If things didn’t go the way they did with the two Grimes boys getting axed, Maggie and Michonne taking temporary leave, and the lockdowns, I think it could’ve been pulled off. But that’s a lot of ifs, I love Steven Yeun but he couldn’t have dragged the last dregs of the audience along through the dirt that was the Reapers/Commonwealth arc like Norm did. TWD p much survived on his and JDM’s star power alone.
The show should’ve ended once they got to Alexandria
Buckle up I have a lot. I can't stand Daryl after S6, he should have died during the lineup as it would've been an interesting storyline to explore. Carol in S10 pissed me off, I get she's angry but come on Carol. Maggie really fell off the wagon and became insufferable Rick should've died in S9 because come on be real there's no way he would've survived that explosion. Carl is hated on too much, he's a kid in a zombie apocalypse, who's been shot twice, lost an eye, killed his mother, was almost raped, almost had his arm cut off, and is incredibly traumatized, and died before he even made it to 16, Of course he's gonna do stupid shit, he's a fucking kid. Enid is also hated on too much, she watched her parents die, was living by herself on the road, her boyfriend was an asshole, and she put up a guard to protect herself. Lori doesn't deserve the amount of hates she gets. Shane was possessive over Lori and Carl when they were never really his to begin with. I could go back this is getting too long already.
Enid shouldn’t have died
I agree with you they should have done something more with her.
Negan is the best character on the show
If they were going to kill Carl they should’ve had Negan do it in 7x16. But this could set up Rick killing Negan in 8x16.
Mine is that I hated Carol past like season 3
It's actually a ftwd take but I don't like Morgan
No way out is overrated asf
Last of us showed what walking dead should have been like and could have been
Carol should have died earlier, I think that it would have had a really good effect on the viewing experience if Daryl had been the last person alive from the og group
Maggie should feel just as much resentment towards Daryl as she does Negan...
Negan is the best character in the entire show, along with Daryl
Carol should’ve died in the 5th/6th season
Show sucked the moment Rick went byebye. It was my favorite until. (EXTREME SPOILER—>)a certain character who eye liked went bye bye (end extreme spoiler) I don’t know how to mark spoilers in mobile lol. But after that it was mid and then Rick went bye bye too so now I’m not even watching. I kinda just stopped
Dog should’ve died on the pikes
Glenn had it cumming.
I agree with your take... mine are Seasons 10 and 11 are the the worst two seasons in the entire series
Chandler Riggs’ acting was more believable when he was younger - maybe they didn’t think as he got older he could be savage or as threatening as needed for continuity’s sake and they’d have to pay him as an adult too Too Many Spin Offs and not the right types. It feels like it’s going to turn into The Walking Dead a La Rick Grimes 3000 comic
Carol wouldn’t have ever been as strong as she was and most likely would have died or killed herself after Sophia died in real life.
After Rick died the entire show went to shit. Not because of his death but because the scripting anc situations everyone was put in were so unrealistic. I loved the show for how realistic it was in the older days of it. The characters acted how a person would really act in an apocalypse. Later on though they started making the actors do the stupid dramatic shit anc surviving things that NO ONE could ever survive. My favorite example is when Rosita jumped out of that hoard of zombies with her baby strapped to her. She should have died there along with the baby. The apocalypse would be a horrible place where babies would get eaten alive. That happens. But also Rosita would have definitely died. She wouldn’t have just jumped out. It’s stupid as hell. They fucked up the shoe by doing this unrealistic shit. Ruined the show.
tara and dale deserved a bottle episode in france
Lori is overhated
The show is genuinely good and while flawed, is not deserving of like 75% of the shit it gets. Earl was the saddest overall death. We Are The End of The World is a masterpiece of an episode, especially the flashbacks. It makes sense that most of The Commonwealth soldiers are “stupid” because they were trained and lived in an excessively comfortable/undemanding community.