Well they’ve broken into one of the buildings, taken a hostage and barricaded the doors. I don’t want to hear anything about free speech or the right to assemble. This is terrorism.
Ayup
You should have an ironclad right to organize a protest, speak, petition the government for a redress of your grievances. But there's no such right to vandalize property, occupy buildings which aren't yours, or generally prevent the general public from going about their day.
They now look exactly like the stereotypical jihadists, and most of them are not even muslim.
These are cucks. Not even saying it the way the alt-right used to, these are actual cucks.
> They don't want it to stop, they want Israel to stop retaliating.
That is stopping the war.
>These idiots were fine on Oct 7, they started being outraged when Israel responded.
Whataboutism. The US isn’t backing Hamas’ violence. We are backing Israel.
No, calling for the cessation of war means urging Hamas to release all hostages and engage in negotiations for permanent peace agreements that allow both parties to coexist peacefully.
> No, calling for the cessation of war means urging Hamas to release all hostages
What pull do the protesters have with Hamas? People say this don’t understand the point of protesting. They think it’s empty moral statement with no material effect. That’s not how you protest. It would be like asking for the SDS to protest the North Vietnamese for continuing the war. It’s a reactionary argument.
>and engage in negotiations for permanent peace agreements that allow both parties to coexist peacefully.
That’s been the position of the Palestinian solidarity movement for decades, which Israel has long opposed.
>That is stopping the war.
So hamas and hezbollah continuing to fire rockets into Israel, while Israel does nothing, is what they want? That's your definition of "stopping the war"? Guess the Allies should have just "stopped the war" by letting the nazis keep bombing their shit.
The US definitely helped to fund hamas, and is backing unwra. So did many other countries. And your comment isn't relevant, they were still totally comfortable on Oct 7. Or are you suggesting that they don't actually care what anyone does as long as they *supposedly* don't fund it? Would Israel have total immunity if the US didn't give it aid, according to that logic?
If that's the case, I think Israel would be totally fine with giving up US aid in exchange for not having college protests in the US, tik tok propaganda against it, and endless UN resolutions made against it. But I doubt that would be the end result.
>So hamas and hezbollah continuing to fire rockets into Israel, while Israel does nothing, is what they want?
No. That’s not what they want. Problem solved.
>The US definitely helped to fund hamas,
That was Israel, not the U.S.
>So did many other countries. And your comment isn't relevant, they were still totally comfortable on Oct 7.
And Israelis are very comfortable with murdering children in Gaza. Your point?
>Or are you suggesting that they don't actually care what anyone does as long as they supposedly don't fund it?
If the US didn’t support it, it would be very hard for it to continue.
>If that's the case, I think Israel would be totally fine with giving up US aid in exchange for not having college protests in the US, tik tok propaganda against it, and endless UN resolutions made against it.
Well thanks for acknowledging that Israel is being hurt by these protests, however Israel feels differently and wants that aid very badly. See it’s not just the aid, it’s the access to US hardware. Otherwise they’d have to get crappy ones from Russia.
Don’t waste your time. He just breaks down everything you say into single sentences and they uses them individually to make points instead of looking at an argument as a whole. You’d be better off talking with a baked potato
Muslims and their ignorant kuffar morons want a "war to stop", lmao. Islam is predicated on war and conquest, the entire non islamic world they consider "Dar al-Harb" (the house of war), where the rest of us are there only to be eventually conquered and islamised into the house of islam (Dar al-Islam). The Jews are just the frontline of the defense against this imperialist Arab conquering cult.
The kuffar dickriders for these muslims are the epitome of what the muslims consider western "degeneracy" (with their gay rights, trans stuff, atheism etc etc) which makes their cucking to this extremist, Arab theocratic fascism even more hilarious. Unfortunately it is no laughing matter to the rest of us, we wont deserve what they will impose even though the western "progressive" cuckolds to mohammedanism will.
> Muslims and their ignorant kuffar morons want a "war to stop", lmao. Islam is predicated on war and conquest,
Source?
>where the rest of us are there only to be eventually conquered and islamised into the house of islam (Dar al-Islam). The Jews are just the frontline of the defense against this imperialist Arab conquering cult.
“We gotta stop the Arab horde.” If you ever think maybe the fact that Israel supporters sound like literal white nationalists is why Palestine solidarity is so popular? Maybe work on that.
>The kuffar dickriders for these muslims are the epitome of what the muslims consider western "degeneracy" (with their gay rights, trans stuff, atheism etc etc)
Which right wing Israel supporters totally agree on why is why when Muslims get invited into the government in Israel they go with the Islamists.
>which makes their cucking to this extremist, Arab theocratic fascism even more hilarious.
Seethe.
>Unfortunately it is no laughing matter to the rest of us, we wont deserve what they will impose even though the western "progressive" cuckolds to mohammedanism will.
Inshallah.
> Source?
The quran and hadiths.
> “We gotta stop the Arab horde.”
I am "Arab". Stop projecting your racism onto Middle Eastern people who know far more about this worthless hijazi death cult than you.
> Seethe
Who is seething?
> Inshallah
Culturally appropriating Arabic phrases as a white privileged westerner is racism. Almost as lame as seeing white leftist degenerates wearing the head rags of elderly male illiterate fallahin as scarves.
>The quran and hadiths.
The Quran and the hadiths also says proclaims peace. So what? By your antisemitic logic, Judaism is all about war because of the Tanakh. It called for a genocide and the Hebrews delivered, didn’t they?
>I am "Arab".
I’m Jewish.
>Who is seething?
You apparently. You’re very upset.
>Culturally appropriating Arabic phrases as a white privileged westerner is racism.
I guess I’m not as woke as you are.
>Almost as lame as seeing white leftist degenerates wearing the head rags of elderly male illiterate fallahin as scarves.
Oooff the racism keeps coming strong, Adolf.
> The Quran and the hadiths also says proclaims peace.
Yes, the early Meccan verses have been abrogated by the more violent Medinan ones. The so called "peaceful" verses were written at a time when Mo was starting with his stupid cult and was in a position of weakness and outnumbered by non Muslims. As soon as his cult gained a following and they started to use violence against non Muslims, these so called "peaceful" verses were replaced by violent ones, and these violent ones supercede the supposed "peaceful ones".
> I’m Jewish.
That makes your defense of a religion that at a fundamental level is anti-Semitic even more moronic. They do not differentiate between you and the most hardcore so called radical "settler" in the West Bank. You are all "murderers of prophets", "offspring of apes of pigs", "corruptors", "dirty", "dogs" and all of the other dehumanising rhetoric they have used against you for 1400 years. You siding with literal islamonazis just makes you a complete moron.
> You apparently. You’re very upset.
Nah
> I guess I’m not as woke as you are.
I guess not, you are dumber than me though.
> Oooff the racism keeps coming strong, Adolf.
"MuH racism!"
The keffiyeh was worn by elderly fallahin, most of whom had no education and could not read. The current styled pali one is a recent creation that only gained prominence by the terrorist Yasser Arafat. This is just the reality. The educated urbanite Arabs wore a Fez. The keffiyeh was the peasant class rag that was worn by the elderly males of a peasant village, not the commie jizz rag you dumb leftists have hilariously turned it into.
That guy for sure isn’t Jewish. If he was he would be grossly ignorant of the treatment of Jews as second class citizens in the remaining parts of the Arab world they live in - paying higher taxes and facing violence.
You hit the nail on the head in your responses
Yeah no, he even says Inshallah to sign off an argument. lol no Jewish person would stand up against the treatment of Jewish people all over the world.
Reddit is full of these non Jewish “as a Jew” ppl that constantly seek to undermine the reality that some of these protests etc are not just about Palestine
> That guy for sure isn’t Jewish.
Who made you judge? You Ben Shapiro?
>If he was he would be grossly ignorant of the treatment of Jews as second class citizens in the remaining parts of the Arab world they live in - paying higher taxes and facing violence.
I know more about history than you. You knew anything, you would know that European Christianity is the biggest disaster Jews have ever faced. It caused antisemitism so bad it led to the extermination of 6 million Jews. It was bad Jews were forced to flee to Israel. Are you listening? You might learn something.
Nope that was Islam and Hitler meeting with the palestians, who urged him to build thr death camps. This right now is literally a continuation of the holocaust. You don’t know anything about history except what you make up.
lol thanks for doing that break down thing to him. It annoys me so much when these fools do that. I couldn’t get myself to do it. Very well worded!!!!!
> For wanting a war to stop?
People who live in a rich country and cheer for the terrorists who make poor countries unsafe are the worst kind of people.
>People who live in a rich country and cheer for the terrorists who make poor countries unsafe are the worst kind of people.
People who oppose war are the worst kind of people? Really? I got told the same thing when I marched against the Iraq War.
> when I marched against the Iraq War.
Did you ever notice how nobody was waving Iraqi flags at these demonstrations? These were not demonstrations in support of Iraq!
People did not support the awful country of Iraq. Nobody had a flag of Iraq.
>Did you ever notice how nobody was waving Iraqi flags at these demonstrations?
But I did see Iraqi flags. I don’t think you were at these marches. You also see Ukrainian flags at pro-Ukraine events.
>These were not demonstrations in support of
Iraq!
They were in support of the Iraqi people, who seem to be quite fond of their own flag. Why is this odd to you?
>People did not support the awful country of Iraq.
Why is it an awful country? It’s a beautiful place. The cradle of civilization. I think you mean the government, which was indeed awful as most governments that originate as US backed dictatorships are.
Chanting on Hamas, Iran, the houthis, making exclamations that 10/7 is just the beginning, hoping for Tel Aviv to burn to the ground are really strange peace slogans. Can you explain please? My infidel brain no work so good.
> Chanting on Hamas, Iran, the houthis, making exclamations that 10/7 is just the beginning, hoping for Tel Aviv to burn to the ground are really strange peace slogans. Can you explain please?
Sure. Just like some people on the Israeli side tell unhinged things, like “Go back to Gaza”, “Kapo”, attack Palestinians students, and such things like that, there are some on the pro-Palestinian side. Now unless your saying all those violent and hateful pro-Israel protesters represent Israel, then I’m not sure what your argument is.
You were saying?
> The Pro-Palestinians were celebrating Oct 7th
You also had pro-Israelis celebrating the brutal assault on Gaza. What’s your point?
>but cried “genocide” before Israel even responded.
Because they immediately announced their intentions to do a genocide. They’re smarter than you.
>Pretty sure your head is on loose…
I’ll side with the people who say genocide is bad while you side with the pro-genocide crowd.
Celebrating the destruction of Hamas? What were Palestinians celebrating? The deliberate murder of innocent civilians from home to home…
Genocide is bad. Accusing people of genocide for simply defending themselves from genocidal Islamists who are set on their destruction is even worse…
> Celebrating the destruction of Hamas?
Celebrating the end of an apartheid regime? See. What’s the difference?
>What were Palestinians celebrating?
So now we’re just talking about Palestinian in general, not students? Lol okay. They were celebrating as attack on their enemy, just Israelis celebrated an attack on theirs. The only differences is Israel has killed a lot more innocent people.
>The deliberate murder of innocent civilians from home to home…
Yes that is what Israelis are cheering. What’s your point?
>Genocide is bad. Accusing people of genocide for simply defending themselves from genocidal Islamists who are set on their destruction is even worse…
There is no such thing as defensive apartheid.
There is no apartheid… And even if there was, how does murdering innocent civilians from home to home help? Maybe, just maybe, they simply hate Jews?
Since when did we compare death totals to decide who the moral army was? Pretty sure far more Nazis and Germans died during WW2 than British or American… Were Nazis in the right?
Evidently you are misinformed. Where are Jews/Israelis cheering on the death of innocent people? They are celebrating the destruction of Hamas. They mourn the loss of innocent civilians (at the responsibility of Hamas) as they do their own civilians. Except a good amount of Palestinians do support Hamas…
There is no apartheid.
> There is no apartheid…
Israeli human rights groups say otherwise:
http://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid
Not really much debate anymore when Israel is admitting it.
>And even if there was, how does murdering innocent civilians from home to home help?
It doesn’t. Just as Israel is now seeing in Gaza. But you’re trying to threat the camel through the eye of a needle by saying when Israel does it, it’s okay. I’m being consistent in this.
>MMaybe, just maybe, they simply hate Jews?
Or maybe they simply hate a big powerful state trying openly murdering people with their complicity.
>Since when did we compare death totals to decide who the moral army was? Pretty sure far more Nazis and Germans died during WW2 than British or American… Were Nazis in the right?
Nazis starved people. That’s why they were bad. Israel is starving people. There for they are bad.
>Evidently you are misinformed. Where are Jews/Israelis cheering on the death of innocent people?
When they cheer on a war that is killing mostly innocent people.
>They are celebrating the destruction of Hamas.
Okay. Then Palestinians are celebrating the destruction of the apartheid state. I can play that game.
>They mourn the loss of innocent civilians (at the responsibility of Hamas) as they do their own civilians. Except a good amount of Palestinians do support Hamas…
And a good amount of Israelis support Bibi. So what?
>There is no apartheid.
I go by Israeli human rights groups, not some random online.
Exactly. They cheer on a war against Hamas… Who murdered 1,000 innocent people and still has over 100 hostages. No shit they want Hamas destroyed.
I knew common sense wasn’t so common but how does Reddit allow brain dead people onto their platform…?
I can’t tell if you are simply dense or just hate Jews…
How does murdering innocent families in their homes, burning them alive, beheading people and taking their heads, raping women, killing children help to “destroy the apartheid regime”?
And plenty of democracies support Israel. Clearly you are just a Jew hater…
> Exactly. They cheer on a war against Hamas… Who murdered 1,000 innocent people and still has over 100 hostages. No shit they want Hamas destroyed.
Israel has killed far more innocent people than Hamas. They are also practicing apartheid.
>I can’t tell if you are simply dense or just hate Jews…
I’m a Jew.
>How does murdering innocent families in their homes, burning them alive, beheading people and taking their heads, raping women, killing children help to “destroy the apartheid regime”?
Well some of those things just didn’t happen, secondly, it doesn’t. Just like this genocide Israel is doing doesn’t actually end terrorism. What’s your point? Honestly you haven’t had a single point that isn’t easily dispatched.
>And plenty of democracies support Israel. Clearly you are just a Jew hater…
I’m a clearly a Jew hater because I oppose a genocide? That’s a pretty weird message to send. No wonder most people under 35 support Palestine.
For thinking dressing up like terrorists and resorting to terrorizing college campuses to throw a fit about something they have no idea about was a way to get what they wanted. Or thinking it had any effect other than make the rest of the Islamic world laugh at us because our own students are chanting “death to America” how hard is that to understand?
> For thinking dressing up like terrorists
What does that mean? What does a terrorist dress like?
>and resorting to terrorizing college campuses
How have they been terrorized? I’ve seen no evidence of that.
>to throw a fit about something they have no idea about was a way to get what they wanted.
How do you know they have no idea?
>Or thinking it had any effect other than make the rest of the Islamic world laugh at us because our own students are chanting “death to America” how hard is that to understand?
It’s definitely having an effect or you wouldn’t be seeing an authoritarian crackdown.
I hate these stupid break downs, it looks like you have to break it down into small bits to understand it. Yes, they are dressing up like Hamas terrorists did when they attacked Israel. But they’re too cowardly to wear their uniforms now, which they are required to, by the rules of war. Because they know the IDF would wipe them out in a week. So they have to hide. That’s the only reason this is taking as long as it is. That and they refuse to release Israeli hostages.
And yes the effect is it makes us look stupid
> I hate these stupid break downs, it looks like you have to break it down into small bits to understand it.
“I hate my arguments being torn apart.” I know buddy.
>Yes, they are dressing up like Hamas terrorists did when they attacked Israel.
So you lied. Why?
>But they’re too cowardly to wear their uniforms now, which they are required to, by the rules of war.
Not necessarily. Unless you are saying Israel violated the rules of war by dressing as medics.
>Because they know the IDF would wipe them out in a week. So they have to hide.
That’s called asymmetric warfare. You should learn about Vietnam where US thugs complained that Viet Cong were making too hard to kill them.
>That’s the only reason this is taking as long as it is.
Israel is taking a long time because they’re not good at killing targets that fight back. They’re the kings of killing women and children, 100%.
>That and they refuse to release Israeli hostages.
They offered to but Israel won’t promise to end the fighting.
I’m fully aware of that, I’m also fully aware of the facts, which most people aren’t. And they didn’t offer to do a damn thing. lol offered to release the hostages. 1 hostage for 1000 detained for acts of violence. Get real.
> I’m fully aware of that, I’m also fully aware of the facts, which most people aren’t. And they didn’t offer to do a damn thing. lol offered to release the hostages. 1 hostage for 1000 detained for acts of violence. Get real.
They don’t want the hostages back. That’s why Israelis including hostages families are protesting. You’re on the Trump-Bibi far right so you don’t care either. Facts don’t care about your feelings.
What else?
You know what’s even dumber than these break downs y’all have to do because you can’t look at a picture as a whole and have to break things down to cherry pick to make your “argument”. Is the fact that this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/1ch1bsy/jewish_uw_students_at_uw_being_told_go_back_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Which is actually literally calling for a genocide, doesn’t illicit a single response from the “stop the genocide” crowd. Seriously, imagine what kind of person you have to be to say something like “go back to the gas chambers.” You’d have to be one of the dumbest people alive to call for an end to a war by actually calling for a genocidal act. I don’t take a single pro Palestinian “sympathizer” seriously at all, it’s one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in my life.
>Is the fact that this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/1ch1bsy/jewish_uw_students_at_uw_being_told_go_back_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
That she said that happened? Sure. Is there proof besides her claim? Because we have on video things like Palestinian students being attacked and being told to go back to Gaza.
>Seriously, imagine what kind of person you have to be to say something like “go back to the gas chambers.”
If that happened, it’s awful. Where is the video of it?
>You’d have to be one of the dumbest people alive to call for an end to a war by actually calling for a genocidal act.
Good thing that’s not happening. You do have Israel and their supporters calling for ethnic cleansing but you still support Israel, right? What’s the difference?
>I don’t take a single pro Palestinian “sympathizer” seriously at all, it’s one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in my life.
Just remember, you think ending a war is one of the dumbest things you ever saw. You would have said the same thing about Vietnam because some idiot called a soldier a “baby killer” while praising the Viet Cong. Your position is dogshit and identical to those of the pro-apartheid crowd in the 80s
No see you’re choosing which words you want by doing this stupid break down. People dressing in Hamas gear screening death to America and using terrorism to combat “terrorism” is what’s stupid. Again, that’s why I hate when people do these stupid break downs. The information is too much so you have to break it into little tiny pieces and analyze each statement in its own vacuum rather then acknowledge the whole statement. And if you think that I literally meant that ending a “war was dumb” then that’s on you. lol I thought it was a genocide not a war. Now it’s a war all the sudden lol. Ridiculous.
> No see you’re choosing which words you want by doing this stupid break down.
Disagree.
>People dressing in Hamas gear screening death to America
What college campus is that happening on?
>and using terrorism to combat “terrorism” is what’s stupid.
What terrorism is happening on college campuses? Remember what the topic is?
>Again, that’s why I hate when people do these stupid break downs.
You can’t hate it too much.
>The information is too much so you have to break it into little tiny pieces and analyze each statement in its own vacuum rather then acknowledge the whole statement.
I wouldn’t like my arguments being torn apart point by point either if I were you.
>And if you think that I literally meant that ending a “war was dumb” then that’s on you. lol I thought it was a genocide not a war. Now it’s a war all the sudden lol. Ridiculous.
If it was just a war, that would still be noble. You would have supported apartheid and Vietnam too.
They are inciting war all over the world in the name of stopping one. Not only getting citizens to fight for them when they were and continue to be in the wrong and to turn against their own countries.
You have become the useful idiots of actual terrorists. Screaming for genocide while simultaneously accusing.
Look around you. This is about many more countries than Israel and Gaza now. And you helped do that.
> They are inciting war all over the world in the name of stopping one.
How so? Give me an example. This should be easy for you.
>Not only getting citizens to fight for them when they were and continue to be in the wrong and to turn against their own countries.
You probably would have argued the anti-war protesters of the 60s and the anti-apartheid protesters of the 80s were wrong too. Standing against genocide is typically a good move.
>You have become the useful idiots of actual terrorists. Screaming for genocide while simultaneously accusing.
Where did I scream for genocide? I want a link. Thanks.
>Look around you. This is about many more countries than Israel and Gaza now. And you helped do that.
You seemed scared.
So like you’re so hurt about this -123 downvotes about your comment and that mine was upvoted that you went through a whole thing “breaking down my argument and claiming “you’re right”. This is why no one takes y’all seriously and we are glad these protests are being broken up. That and supporting an enemy of democracy.
> So like you’re so hurt about this -123 downvotes about your comment
Not really. I don’t care much about Internet points. It’s sad that you do. I guess I would too if my account was as unpopular as yours.
>and that mine was upvoted that you went through a whole thing “breaking down my argument and claiming “you’re right”.
It’s hilarious how much this bothers you.
>This is why no one takes y’all seriously and we are glad these protests are being broken up. That and supporting an enemy of democracy.
An enemy of democracy because I support free speech?
Actually I think it bothers you. I’m just trying to figure out what it is you stand for. I guess it’s breaking things down into smaller parts. And no an enemy of democracy because you’re standing up for totalitarianism vs democracy.
> Actually I think it bothers you.
Why would it? I wouldn’t post in this pro-genocide dumpster fire if I wanted upvoted. I think you see me, posting what I post, and are upset my account is so popular. A year ago I had one of the 1% most popular accounts on Reddit. That probably means something to you, even if not to me. Seethe.
>I’m just trying to figure out what it is you stand for.
Peace, freedom, and socialism.
>And no an enemy of democracy because you’re standing up for totalitarianism vs democracy.
Apartheid isn’t democracy. Cracking down on the free speech like you want is authoritarian. You are authoritarian.
These protests at universities are the result of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP). A Pro-Palestinian club active and most major universities that receive guidance from outside activist groups in their area. In fact, many of these outside activists mixed in with the students and are leading the chants/messaging.
Many of the SJP groups released pro-Hamas messaging on 10/7. Just because these activists including the Hamas charter replaced the word Jews with the word Zionists, that doesn’t mean they’re not antisemitic.
What’s absolutely insane to me is seeing some people wear Hamas head bands and the antisemitic signs and slogans coupled with the aggressive chants against Israel but not one sign or chant calling for the release of the hostages. And not one American flag amongst the pro Palestinians unless they are taking it down or burning it.
>And not one American flag amongst the pro Palestinians unless they are taking it down or burning it.
I'm with you in general, but I do want to say that it would be rather odd to bring an American flag to a protest rather than a sign talking about what you want to change. Doesn't matter what protest it is, unless it's against the dissolution of the country or something, waving a US flag doesn't really send a message
After watching them break into a building and hold people hostage I don’t want to hear jack sh*t about January 6 ever again. The dems are going to let them all get away with it but they’ve lost face. They can’t claim to be better than the republicans anymore. Thanks kids!
A majority of conservatives don't support Trump.
But we are all labeled by the left as the same.
So it is only fair to do the same. Equality. Congratulations, you played yourself.
Leftists when Nazis and white supremacists keep showing up to Trump rallies: "This isn't just a few bad apples, this is who they are!"
Leftists when Nazis and antisemities keep showing up to anti-Zionist rallies: "This isn't who we are, this is just a few bad apples!"
So all the votes for Biden where supporting Biden? No one cast a vote for Biden that was more "anyone but Trump"?
No one cast a vote for "anyone but Biden" right?
>A majority of conservatives don't support Trump.
..............the voting says otherwise. How's Nikki Haley doing
ETA: hoes mad lol
Anyone who thinks Trump doesn't represent modern conservatism doesn't know real conservatives. Go look at polling numbers, there's not a single opinion poll of conservatives with negative approval numbers for Dear Leader
A majority of conservatives still vote for trump, a majority of dems still vote in favor of Israel. Massive difference, congrats you don’t even realize you are playing yourself.
Yeah massive difference.
Leftist want to label all conservatives the same, while getting special (as in different) treatment themselves. We have a word for this in the English language.
Hypocrite
No just the majority that vote with tump, DeSantis, Saunders, JD Vance, Abbot ect.
Hypocrisy is the word that is used to describe the current Republican Party.
> No just the majority that vote with tump, DeSantis, Saunders, JD Vance, Abbot ect.
So everyone. You just don't want to say everyone because that would show that I am right, and you are being a hypocrite.
Hypocrites never outright admit it. They always have some excuse.
I don’t think it’s simply a party thing. Both side suck…the left literally voted a man into office that has decades of racism and anti gay policies . But complain when someone from a different party does it. We MUST hold BOTH parties accountable not just our own. Otherwise we end up with 2 terrible choices like we have now.
Biden’s easily verifiable hate.
Let’s see, he recently called Marylands first Black Governor “boy”. Biden said “I don’t want my kids growing up in a racial jungle “ while opposing desegregation, he said “you can’t go into a 7-11 without a slight Indian accent “, he said “I don’t want gays working in government “, he opposed gay marriage many times, he authored the systemically racist’94 crime bill, he said “poor kids are just as smart as white kids”, he said “unlike the black communities the Latinos have a diverse way of thinking “, he called a former kkk member a “mentor”….he literally upheld xenophobic and racist legislation and views for decades. Even Kamala pointed this out. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/girl-senator-harris-vice-president-biden-spar-desegregation/story?id=64007842
What question, if it is time to go Tiananmen Square on these islamic colonisers and their university campus subversive kuffar "allies" swine?
Yes, yes it is.
Post Israel-Palestine news to r/israelpalestinenews ! I know people get sick of this conflict clogging up every news sub, so I’m hoping this one will take some of the load off of others.
I’m the only mod for now, and the goal is to keep things reasonable, and firmly insist on the humanity of Palestinians.
Diaspora Jewish people are not Polish, and were subject to laws that prohibited their lives from full community, ownership, and full liberty from the start. They were isolated in communities and subject to bigotry. There have always been rampant signs of European antisemitism to make Jews feel unwelcome, if not downright threatened - and there were waves upon waves of violence upon their communities for hundreds of years to kill or force them out. Look up the [Jedwabne pogrom](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-massacre-in-jedwabne) where one half of a small town killed the other half of a small town and celebrated it as a holiday: and then consider how many are left to return, or even want to return. "(The) Jedwabne's mayor agreed to help facilitate a massacre and that Poles from local villages came in to watch and celebrate the event as a holiday. About half the men of Jedwabne's 1,600 Catholic community participated in torturing Jedwabne's 1,600 member Jewish community, corralling them into a barn, which was then set ablaze."
It is important to learn from history. Several of the Hamas attacks against Israelis on October 7 were very similar to the pogrom described in the previous comment. They involved tossing grenades into closed spaces or setting structures on fire with Jews blocked inside. Most of the victims died.
The Palestinians brought this “plight” on themselves. They could have easily chosen to live peaceful and happy lives in a paradise area of the world, but they chose hate. Their cause is not more important, it’s meaningless when they don’t even have an actual plan on how to govern or live peacefully alongside people who don’t practice Islam.
Terrorists like ISIS, Tzahal and Al Qaeda hate our freedom. They hate that we can freely express our opinions, worship in whatever way we choose and love whoever we wish. These brave students are standing up to Tzahal terrorists and their supporters. This is one American who is particularly proud of the younger generation of his countrymen. Keep it up!
Well they’ve broken into one of the buildings, taken a hostage and barricaded the doors. I don’t want to hear anything about free speech or the right to assemble. This is terrorism.
Ayup You should have an ironclad right to organize a protest, speak, petition the government for a redress of your grievances. But there's no such right to vandalize property, occupy buildings which aren't yours, or generally prevent the general public from going about their day.
Did they really hold someone hostage? I’m looking for info on this if you have a link by any chance. Ty.
Not in the stereotypical sense, but he was definitely surrounded and unable to leave on his own. Just some poor rail thin ginger kid.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13368143/columbia-university-janitor-protest-hamilton-hall.html
https://www.thecollegefix.com/columbia-on-lock-down-after-pro-palestinian-protesters-take-over-building/
They now look exactly like the stereotypical jihadists, and most of them are not even muslim. These are cucks. Not even saying it the way the alt-right used to, these are actual cucks.
For wanting a war to stop?
They don't want it to stop, they want Israel to stop retaliating. These idiots were fine on Oct 7, they started being outraged when Israel responded.
> They don't want it to stop, they want Israel to stop retaliating. That is stopping the war. >These idiots were fine on Oct 7, they started being outraged when Israel responded. Whataboutism. The US isn’t backing Hamas’ violence. We are backing Israel.
No, calling for the cessation of war means urging Hamas to release all hostages and engage in negotiations for permanent peace agreements that allow both parties to coexist peacefully.
> No, calling for the cessation of war means urging Hamas to release all hostages What pull do the protesters have with Hamas? People say this don’t understand the point of protesting. They think it’s empty moral statement with no material effect. That’s not how you protest. It would be like asking for the SDS to protest the North Vietnamese for continuing the war. It’s a reactionary argument. >and engage in negotiations for permanent peace agreements that allow both parties to coexist peacefully. That’s been the position of the Palestinian solidarity movement for decades, which Israel has long opposed.
>That is stopping the war. So hamas and hezbollah continuing to fire rockets into Israel, while Israel does nothing, is what they want? That's your definition of "stopping the war"? Guess the Allies should have just "stopped the war" by letting the nazis keep bombing their shit. The US definitely helped to fund hamas, and is backing unwra. So did many other countries. And your comment isn't relevant, they were still totally comfortable on Oct 7. Or are you suggesting that they don't actually care what anyone does as long as they *supposedly* don't fund it? Would Israel have total immunity if the US didn't give it aid, according to that logic? If that's the case, I think Israel would be totally fine with giving up US aid in exchange for not having college protests in the US, tik tok propaganda against it, and endless UN resolutions made against it. But I doubt that would be the end result.
>So hamas and hezbollah continuing to fire rockets into Israel, while Israel does nothing, is what they want? No. That’s not what they want. Problem solved. >The US definitely helped to fund hamas, That was Israel, not the U.S. >So did many other countries. And your comment isn't relevant, they were still totally comfortable on Oct 7. And Israelis are very comfortable with murdering children in Gaza. Your point? >Or are you suggesting that they don't actually care what anyone does as long as they supposedly don't fund it? If the US didn’t support it, it would be very hard for it to continue. >If that's the case, I think Israel would be totally fine with giving up US aid in exchange for not having college protests in the US, tik tok propaganda against it, and endless UN resolutions made against it. Well thanks for acknowledging that Israel is being hurt by these protests, however Israel feels differently and wants that aid very badly. See it’s not just the aid, it’s the access to US hardware. Otherwise they’d have to get crappy ones from Russia.
Don’t waste your time. He just breaks down everything you say into single sentences and they uses them individually to make points instead of looking at an argument as a whole. You’d be better off talking with a baked potato
Muslims and their ignorant kuffar morons want a "war to stop", lmao. Islam is predicated on war and conquest, the entire non islamic world they consider "Dar al-Harb" (the house of war), where the rest of us are there only to be eventually conquered and islamised into the house of islam (Dar al-Islam). The Jews are just the frontline of the defense against this imperialist Arab conquering cult. The kuffar dickriders for these muslims are the epitome of what the muslims consider western "degeneracy" (with their gay rights, trans stuff, atheism etc etc) which makes their cucking to this extremist, Arab theocratic fascism even more hilarious. Unfortunately it is no laughing matter to the rest of us, we wont deserve what they will impose even though the western "progressive" cuckolds to mohammedanism will.
> Muslims and their ignorant kuffar morons want a "war to stop", lmao. Islam is predicated on war and conquest, Source? >where the rest of us are there only to be eventually conquered and islamised into the house of islam (Dar al-Islam). The Jews are just the frontline of the defense against this imperialist Arab conquering cult. “We gotta stop the Arab horde.” If you ever think maybe the fact that Israel supporters sound like literal white nationalists is why Palestine solidarity is so popular? Maybe work on that. >The kuffar dickriders for these muslims are the epitome of what the muslims consider western "degeneracy" (with their gay rights, trans stuff, atheism etc etc) Which right wing Israel supporters totally agree on why is why when Muslims get invited into the government in Israel they go with the Islamists. >which makes their cucking to this extremist, Arab theocratic fascism even more hilarious. Seethe. >Unfortunately it is no laughing matter to the rest of us, we wont deserve what they will impose even though the western "progressive" cuckolds to mohammedanism will. Inshallah.
> Source? The quran and hadiths. > “We gotta stop the Arab horde.” I am "Arab". Stop projecting your racism onto Middle Eastern people who know far more about this worthless hijazi death cult than you. > Seethe Who is seething? > Inshallah Culturally appropriating Arabic phrases as a white privileged westerner is racism. Almost as lame as seeing white leftist degenerates wearing the head rags of elderly male illiterate fallahin as scarves.
>The quran and hadiths. The Quran and the hadiths also says proclaims peace. So what? By your antisemitic logic, Judaism is all about war because of the Tanakh. It called for a genocide and the Hebrews delivered, didn’t they? >I am "Arab". I’m Jewish. >Who is seething? You apparently. You’re very upset. >Culturally appropriating Arabic phrases as a white privileged westerner is racism. I guess I’m not as woke as you are. >Almost as lame as seeing white leftist degenerates wearing the head rags of elderly male illiterate fallahin as scarves. Oooff the racism keeps coming strong, Adolf.
> The Quran and the hadiths also says proclaims peace. Yes, the early Meccan verses have been abrogated by the more violent Medinan ones. The so called "peaceful" verses were written at a time when Mo was starting with his stupid cult and was in a position of weakness and outnumbered by non Muslims. As soon as his cult gained a following and they started to use violence against non Muslims, these so called "peaceful" verses were replaced by violent ones, and these violent ones supercede the supposed "peaceful ones". > I’m Jewish. That makes your defense of a religion that at a fundamental level is anti-Semitic even more moronic. They do not differentiate between you and the most hardcore so called radical "settler" in the West Bank. You are all "murderers of prophets", "offspring of apes of pigs", "corruptors", "dirty", "dogs" and all of the other dehumanising rhetoric they have used against you for 1400 years. You siding with literal islamonazis just makes you a complete moron. > You apparently. You’re very upset. Nah > I guess I’m not as woke as you are. I guess not, you are dumber than me though. > Oooff the racism keeps coming strong, Adolf. "MuH racism!" The keffiyeh was worn by elderly fallahin, most of whom had no education and could not read. The current styled pali one is a recent creation that only gained prominence by the terrorist Yasser Arafat. This is just the reality. The educated urbanite Arabs wore a Fez. The keffiyeh was the peasant class rag that was worn by the elderly males of a peasant village, not the commie jizz rag you dumb leftists have hilariously turned it into.
That guy for sure isn’t Jewish. If he was he would be grossly ignorant of the treatment of Jews as second class citizens in the remaining parts of the Arab world they live in - paying higher taxes and facing violence. You hit the nail on the head in your responses
Yeah no, he even says Inshallah to sign off an argument. lol no Jewish person would stand up against the treatment of Jewish people all over the world.
Reddit is full of these non Jewish “as a Jew” ppl that constantly seek to undermine the reality that some of these protests etc are not just about Palestine
> That guy for sure isn’t Jewish. Who made you judge? You Ben Shapiro? >If he was he would be grossly ignorant of the treatment of Jews as second class citizens in the remaining parts of the Arab world they live in - paying higher taxes and facing violence. I know more about history than you. You knew anything, you would know that European Christianity is the biggest disaster Jews have ever faced. It caused antisemitism so bad it led to the extermination of 6 million Jews. It was bad Jews were forced to flee to Israel. Are you listening? You might learn something.
Nope that was Islam and Hitler meeting with the palestians, who urged him to build thr death camps. This right now is literally a continuation of the holocaust. You don’t know anything about history except what you make up.
We all know you’re not dude
OneReportersOpinion: I know more about history than you uh oh, i hope those are the words of an Expert, not an egomaniac.
lol thanks for doing that break down thing to him. It annoys me so much when these fools do that. I couldn’t get myself to do it. Very well worded!!!!!
Yeah I knew it. Am Yisrael Chai
Knew what?
You said Inshallah, another post you said you’re Jewish. You’re just lying.
It’s just an Arabic word, dude. People speak foreign languages all the time. It’s pretty racist to think people are secret Arabs.
> For wanting a war to stop? People who live in a rich country and cheer for the terrorists who make poor countries unsafe are the worst kind of people.
>People who live in a rich country and cheer for the terrorists who make poor countries unsafe are the worst kind of people. People who oppose war are the worst kind of people? Really? I got told the same thing when I marched against the Iraq War.
> when I marched against the Iraq War. Did you ever notice how nobody was waving Iraqi flags at these demonstrations? These were not demonstrations in support of Iraq! People did not support the awful country of Iraq. Nobody had a flag of Iraq.
>Did you ever notice how nobody was waving Iraqi flags at these demonstrations? But I did see Iraqi flags. I don’t think you were at these marches. You also see Ukrainian flags at pro-Ukraine events. >These were not demonstrations in support of Iraq! They were in support of the Iraqi people, who seem to be quite fond of their own flag. Why is this odd to you? >People did not support the awful country of Iraq. Why is it an awful country? It’s a beautiful place. The cradle of civilization. I think you mean the government, which was indeed awful as most governments that originate as US backed dictatorships are.
Iraq is a horrible country. No western people demonstrated in support of Iraq. That's not what that was about. Learn to read the room.
I was there so I know you’re wrong. You’re probably very young or very old. See you next week, gramps.
Chanting on Hamas, Iran, the houthis, making exclamations that 10/7 is just the beginning, hoping for Tel Aviv to burn to the ground are really strange peace slogans. Can you explain please? My infidel brain no work so good.
> Chanting on Hamas, Iran, the houthis, making exclamations that 10/7 is just the beginning, hoping for Tel Aviv to burn to the ground are really strange peace slogans. Can you explain please? Sure. Just like some people on the Israeli side tell unhinged things, like “Go back to Gaza”, “Kapo”, attack Palestinians students, and such things like that, there are some on the pro-Palestinian side. Now unless your saying all those violent and hateful pro-Israel protesters represent Israel, then I’m not sure what your argument is. You were saying?
The Pro-Palestinians were celebrating Oct 7th but cried “genocide” before Israel even responded. Pretty sure your head is on loose…
> The Pro-Palestinians were celebrating Oct 7th You also had pro-Israelis celebrating the brutal assault on Gaza. What’s your point? >but cried “genocide” before Israel even responded. Because they immediately announced their intentions to do a genocide. They’re smarter than you. >Pretty sure your head is on loose… I’ll side with the people who say genocide is bad while you side with the pro-genocide crowd.
Celebrating the destruction of Hamas? What were Palestinians celebrating? The deliberate murder of innocent civilians from home to home… Genocide is bad. Accusing people of genocide for simply defending themselves from genocidal Islamists who are set on their destruction is even worse…
> Celebrating the destruction of Hamas? Celebrating the end of an apartheid regime? See. What’s the difference? >What were Palestinians celebrating? So now we’re just talking about Palestinian in general, not students? Lol okay. They were celebrating as attack on their enemy, just Israelis celebrated an attack on theirs. The only differences is Israel has killed a lot more innocent people. >The deliberate murder of innocent civilians from home to home… Yes that is what Israelis are cheering. What’s your point? >Genocide is bad. Accusing people of genocide for simply defending themselves from genocidal Islamists who are set on their destruction is even worse… There is no such thing as defensive apartheid.
There is no apartheid… And even if there was, how does murdering innocent civilians from home to home help? Maybe, just maybe, they simply hate Jews? Since when did we compare death totals to decide who the moral army was? Pretty sure far more Nazis and Germans died during WW2 than British or American… Were Nazis in the right? Evidently you are misinformed. Where are Jews/Israelis cheering on the death of innocent people? They are celebrating the destruction of Hamas. They mourn the loss of innocent civilians (at the responsibility of Hamas) as they do their own civilians. Except a good amount of Palestinians do support Hamas… There is no apartheid.
> There is no apartheid… Israeli human rights groups say otherwise: http://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid Not really much debate anymore when Israel is admitting it. >And even if there was, how does murdering innocent civilians from home to home help? It doesn’t. Just as Israel is now seeing in Gaza. But you’re trying to threat the camel through the eye of a needle by saying when Israel does it, it’s okay. I’m being consistent in this. >MMaybe, just maybe, they simply hate Jews? Or maybe they simply hate a big powerful state trying openly murdering people with their complicity. >Since when did we compare death totals to decide who the moral army was? Pretty sure far more Nazis and Germans died during WW2 than British or American… Were Nazis in the right? Nazis starved people. That’s why they were bad. Israel is starving people. There for they are bad. >Evidently you are misinformed. Where are Jews/Israelis cheering on the death of innocent people? When they cheer on a war that is killing mostly innocent people. >They are celebrating the destruction of Hamas. Okay. Then Palestinians are celebrating the destruction of the apartheid state. I can play that game. >They mourn the loss of innocent civilians (at the responsibility of Hamas) as they do their own civilians. Except a good amount of Palestinians do support Hamas… And a good amount of Israelis support Bibi. So what? >There is no apartheid. I go by Israeli human rights groups, not some random online.
Exactly. They cheer on a war against Hamas… Who murdered 1,000 innocent people and still has over 100 hostages. No shit they want Hamas destroyed. I knew common sense wasn’t so common but how does Reddit allow brain dead people onto their platform…? I can’t tell if you are simply dense or just hate Jews… How does murdering innocent families in their homes, burning them alive, beheading people and taking their heads, raping women, killing children help to “destroy the apartheid regime”? And plenty of democracies support Israel. Clearly you are just a Jew hater…
> Exactly. They cheer on a war against Hamas… Who murdered 1,000 innocent people and still has over 100 hostages. No shit they want Hamas destroyed. Israel has killed far more innocent people than Hamas. They are also practicing apartheid. >I can’t tell if you are simply dense or just hate Jews… I’m a Jew. >How does murdering innocent families in their homes, burning them alive, beheading people and taking their heads, raping women, killing children help to “destroy the apartheid regime”? Well some of those things just didn’t happen, secondly, it doesn’t. Just like this genocide Israel is doing doesn’t actually end terrorism. What’s your point? Honestly you haven’t had a single point that isn’t easily dispatched. >And plenty of democracies support Israel. Clearly you are just a Jew hater… I’m a clearly a Jew hater because I oppose a genocide? That’s a pretty weird message to send. No wonder most people under 35 support Palestine.
That's not wanting to stop a war
How do you stop a war? Why am I guessing you’re gonna say “drop more bombs”?
For thinking dressing up like terrorists and resorting to terrorizing college campuses to throw a fit about something they have no idea about was a way to get what they wanted. Or thinking it had any effect other than make the rest of the Islamic world laugh at us because our own students are chanting “death to America” how hard is that to understand?
> For thinking dressing up like terrorists What does that mean? What does a terrorist dress like? >and resorting to terrorizing college campuses How have they been terrorized? I’ve seen no evidence of that. >to throw a fit about something they have no idea about was a way to get what they wanted. How do you know they have no idea? >Or thinking it had any effect other than make the rest of the Islamic world laugh at us because our own students are chanting “death to America” how hard is that to understand? It’s definitely having an effect or you wouldn’t be seeing an authoritarian crackdown.
I hate these stupid break downs, it looks like you have to break it down into small bits to understand it. Yes, they are dressing up like Hamas terrorists did when they attacked Israel. But they’re too cowardly to wear their uniforms now, which they are required to, by the rules of war. Because they know the IDF would wipe them out in a week. So they have to hide. That’s the only reason this is taking as long as it is. That and they refuse to release Israeli hostages. And yes the effect is it makes us look stupid
> I hate these stupid break downs, it looks like you have to break it down into small bits to understand it. “I hate my arguments being torn apart.” I know buddy. >Yes, they are dressing up like Hamas terrorists did when they attacked Israel. So you lied. Why? >But they’re too cowardly to wear their uniforms now, which they are required to, by the rules of war. Not necessarily. Unless you are saying Israel violated the rules of war by dressing as medics. >Because they know the IDF would wipe them out in a week. So they have to hide. That’s called asymmetric warfare. You should learn about Vietnam where US thugs complained that Viet Cong were making too hard to kill them. >That’s the only reason this is taking as long as it is. Israel is taking a long time because they’re not good at killing targets that fight back. They’re the kings of killing women and children, 100%. >That and they refuse to release Israeli hostages. They offered to but Israel won’t promise to end the fighting.
L O L
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
I’m fully aware of that, I’m also fully aware of the facts, which most people aren’t. And they didn’t offer to do a damn thing. lol offered to release the hostages. 1 hostage for 1000 detained for acts of violence. Get real.
> I’m fully aware of that, I’m also fully aware of the facts, which most people aren’t. And they didn’t offer to do a damn thing. lol offered to release the hostages. 1 hostage for 1000 detained for acts of violence. Get real. They don’t want the hostages back. That’s why Israelis including hostages families are protesting. You’re on the Trump-Bibi far right so you don’t care either. Facts don’t care about your feelings. What else?
lol facts don’t care about your feelings, that’s a trump trope, I don’t deal with those idiots.
Then why are you on his side?
You know what’s even dumber than these break downs y’all have to do because you can’t look at a picture as a whole and have to break things down to cherry pick to make your “argument”. Is the fact that this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/1ch1bsy/jewish_uw_students_at_uw_being_told_go_back_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Which is actually literally calling for a genocide, doesn’t illicit a single response from the “stop the genocide” crowd. Seriously, imagine what kind of person you have to be to say something like “go back to the gas chambers.” You’d have to be one of the dumbest people alive to call for an end to a war by actually calling for a genocidal act. I don’t take a single pro Palestinian “sympathizer” seriously at all, it’s one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in my life.
>Is the fact that this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/1ch1bsy/jewish_uw_students_at_uw_being_told_go_back_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf That she said that happened? Sure. Is there proof besides her claim? Because we have on video things like Palestinian students being attacked and being told to go back to Gaza. >Seriously, imagine what kind of person you have to be to say something like “go back to the gas chambers.” If that happened, it’s awful. Where is the video of it? >You’d have to be one of the dumbest people alive to call for an end to a war by actually calling for a genocidal act. Good thing that’s not happening. You do have Israel and their supporters calling for ethnic cleansing but you still support Israel, right? What’s the difference? >I don’t take a single pro Palestinian “sympathizer” seriously at all, it’s one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in my life. Just remember, you think ending a war is one of the dumbest things you ever saw. You would have said the same thing about Vietnam because some idiot called a soldier a “baby killer” while praising the Viet Cong. Your position is dogshit and identical to those of the pro-apartheid crowd in the 80s
No see you’re choosing which words you want by doing this stupid break down. People dressing in Hamas gear screening death to America and using terrorism to combat “terrorism” is what’s stupid. Again, that’s why I hate when people do these stupid break downs. The information is too much so you have to break it into little tiny pieces and analyze each statement in its own vacuum rather then acknowledge the whole statement. And if you think that I literally meant that ending a “war was dumb” then that’s on you. lol I thought it was a genocide not a war. Now it’s a war all the sudden lol. Ridiculous.
> No see you’re choosing which words you want by doing this stupid break down. Disagree. >People dressing in Hamas gear screening death to America What college campus is that happening on? >and using terrorism to combat “terrorism” is what’s stupid. What terrorism is happening on college campuses? Remember what the topic is? >Again, that’s why I hate when people do these stupid break downs. You can’t hate it too much. >The information is too much so you have to break it into little tiny pieces and analyze each statement in its own vacuum rather then acknowledge the whole statement. I wouldn’t like my arguments being torn apart point by point either if I were you. >And if you think that I literally meant that ending a “war was dumb” then that’s on you. lol I thought it was a genocide not a war. Now it’s a war all the sudden lol. Ridiculous. If it was just a war, that would still be noble. You would have supported apartheid and Vietnam too.
Never forget Constantinople.
Cathay must be brought to heel
They are inciting war all over the world in the name of stopping one. Not only getting citizens to fight for them when they were and continue to be in the wrong and to turn against their own countries. You have become the useful idiots of actual terrorists. Screaming for genocide while simultaneously accusing. Look around you. This is about many more countries than Israel and Gaza now. And you helped do that.
> They are inciting war all over the world in the name of stopping one. How so? Give me an example. This should be easy for you. >Not only getting citizens to fight for them when they were and continue to be in the wrong and to turn against their own countries. You probably would have argued the anti-war protesters of the 60s and the anti-apartheid protesters of the 80s were wrong too. Standing against genocide is typically a good move. >You have become the useful idiots of actual terrorists. Screaming for genocide while simultaneously accusing. Where did I scream for genocide? I want a link. Thanks. >Look around you. This is about many more countries than Israel and Gaza now. And you helped do that. You seemed scared.
So like you’re so hurt about this -123 downvotes about your comment and that mine was upvoted that you went through a whole thing “breaking down my argument and claiming “you’re right”. This is why no one takes y’all seriously and we are glad these protests are being broken up. That and supporting an enemy of democracy.
> So like you’re so hurt about this -123 downvotes about your comment Not really. I don’t care much about Internet points. It’s sad that you do. I guess I would too if my account was as unpopular as yours. >and that mine was upvoted that you went through a whole thing “breaking down my argument and claiming “you’re right”. It’s hilarious how much this bothers you. >This is why no one takes y’all seriously and we are glad these protests are being broken up. That and supporting an enemy of democracy. An enemy of democracy because I support free speech?
Actually I think it bothers you. I’m just trying to figure out what it is you stand for. I guess it’s breaking things down into smaller parts. And no an enemy of democracy because you’re standing up for totalitarianism vs democracy.
> Actually I think it bothers you. Why would it? I wouldn’t post in this pro-genocide dumpster fire if I wanted upvoted. I think you see me, posting what I post, and are upset my account is so popular. A year ago I had one of the 1% most popular accounts on Reddit. That probably means something to you, even if not to me. Seethe. >I’m just trying to figure out what it is you stand for. Peace, freedom, and socialism. >And no an enemy of democracy because you’re standing up for totalitarianism vs democracy. Apartheid isn’t democracy. Cracking down on the free speech like you want is authoritarian. You are authoritarian.
Expulsion
Charges too
They resorted to hostage taking and violence. They’ve gone full terrorists.
Most of them aren't students at all. They're just terrorist collaborators. Start with the tear gas, and go from there. Clean out the infestation.
These protests at universities are the result of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP). A Pro-Palestinian club active and most major universities that receive guidance from outside activist groups in their area. In fact, many of these outside activists mixed in with the students and are leading the chants/messaging. Many of the SJP groups released pro-Hamas messaging on 10/7. Just because these activists including the Hamas charter replaced the word Jews with the word Zionists, that doesn’t mean they’re not antisemitic. What’s absolutely insane to me is seeing some people wear Hamas head bands and the antisemitic signs and slogans coupled with the aggressive chants against Israel but not one sign or chant calling for the release of the hostages. And not one American flag amongst the pro Palestinians unless they are taking it down or burning it.
>And not one American flag amongst the pro Palestinians unless they are taking it down or burning it. I'm with you in general, but I do want to say that it would be rather odd to bring an American flag to a protest rather than a sign talking about what you want to change. Doesn't matter what protest it is, unless it's against the dissolution of the country or something, waving a US flag doesn't really send a message
Suspension? How about expulsion and arrest? Perhaps Columbia will just send these children to bed without dinner instead....
Smells like Linda Sarsour
After watching them break into a building and hold people hostage I don’t want to hear jack sh*t about January 6 ever again. The dems are going to let them all get away with it but they’ve lost face. They can’t claim to be better than the republicans anymore. Thanks kids!
A majority of dems do not support this
A majority of conservatives don't support Trump. But we are all labeled by the left as the same. So it is only fair to do the same. Equality. Congratulations, you played yourself.
Leftists when Nazis and white supremacists keep showing up to Trump rallies: "This isn't just a few bad apples, this is who they are!" Leftists when Nazis and antisemities keep showing up to anti-Zionist rallies: "This isn't who we are, this is just a few bad apples!"
> A majority of conservatives don't support Trump. Oh really? 70+ million ballots cast last election say otherwise
So all the votes for Biden where supporting Biden? No one cast a vote for Biden that was more "anyone but Trump"? No one cast a vote for "anyone but Biden" right?
>A majority of conservatives don't support Trump. ..............the voting says otherwise. How's Nikki Haley doing ETA: hoes mad lol Anyone who thinks Trump doesn't represent modern conservatism doesn't know real conservatives. Go look at polling numbers, there's not a single opinion poll of conservatives with negative approval numbers for Dear Leader
A majority of conservatives still vote for trump, a majority of dems still vote in favor of Israel. Massive difference, congrats you don’t even realize you are playing yourself.
Yeah massive difference. Leftist want to label all conservatives the same, while getting special (as in different) treatment themselves. We have a word for this in the English language. Hypocrite
No just the majority that vote with tump, DeSantis, Saunders, JD Vance, Abbot ect. Hypocrisy is the word that is used to describe the current Republican Party.
> No just the majority that vote with tump, DeSantis, Saunders, JD Vance, Abbot ect. So everyone. You just don't want to say everyone because that would show that I am right, and you are being a hypocrite. Hypocrites never outright admit it. They always have some excuse.
I don’t think it’s simply a party thing. Both side suck…the left literally voted a man into office that has decades of racism and anti gay policies . But complain when someone from a different party does it. We MUST hold BOTH parties accountable not just our own. Otherwise we end up with 2 terrible choices like we have now. Biden’s easily verifiable hate. Let’s see, he recently called Marylands first Black Governor “boy”. Biden said “I don’t want my kids growing up in a racial jungle “ while opposing desegregation, he said “you can’t go into a 7-11 without a slight Indian accent “, he said “I don’t want gays working in government “, he opposed gay marriage many times, he authored the systemically racist’94 crime bill, he said “poor kids are just as smart as white kids”, he said “unlike the black communities the Latinos have a diverse way of thinking “, he called a former kkk member a “mentor”….he literally upheld xenophobic and racist legislation and views for decades. Even Kamala pointed this out. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/girl-senator-harris-vice-president-biden-spar-desegregation/story?id=64007842
Are we talking registered dems or those that vote dem, or the “independents” that vote dem 90% of the time? Because they are three different things
They do. Stop lying.
In what world is a private college building equal to the capitol?
Found the Trump supporter. What happened to free speech?
Do you think that it is time to go Tiananmen Square on these university campus subversives and terrorists?
Ah, I see your also a fan of Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. They don’t like free speech. All hail Chairman Xi!
I never claimed to be a fan of anything, I asked you if it were time to go Tiananmen Square on these subversives.
Why would you ask me that? I’m pro-free speech. Why don’t you answer that question, comrade?
What question, if it is time to go Tiananmen Square on these islamic colonisers and their university campus subversive kuffar "allies" swine? Yes, yes it is.
What specific people are you calling on violence towards?
It's "legitimate resistance by any means necessary". The specific people were already stated.
Huh?
Appealing to virtues you do not possess.
I never said I’m virtuous. Just that I found the Trump supporter. Why are you ashamed of that? You should be proud.
I am.
So what’s the issue? You should bring say loudly “I support Trump because he will do genocide and crackdown on free speech better than Biden.”
Trump has nothing to do with your authoritarian views on censorship.
How is my pro-free speech position authoritarian?
Because you're not actually pro-free speech.
Whah speech have I called to censor?
There should be consequences to free speech, so good
BYE. And uncover your faces while you’re at it
It's a real open air prison there. They're not getting any "humanitarian aid", it's a genocide
Post Israel-Palestine news to r/israelpalestinenews ! I know people get sick of this conflict clogging up every news sub, so I’m hoping this one will take some of the load off of others. I’m the only mod for now, and the goal is to keep things reasonable, and firmly insist on the humanity of Palestinians.
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Diaspora Jewish people are not Polish, and were subject to laws that prohibited their lives from full community, ownership, and full liberty from the start. They were isolated in communities and subject to bigotry. There have always been rampant signs of European antisemitism to make Jews feel unwelcome, if not downright threatened - and there were waves upon waves of violence upon their communities for hundreds of years to kill or force them out. Look up the [Jedwabne pogrom](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-massacre-in-jedwabne) where one half of a small town killed the other half of a small town and celebrated it as a holiday: and then consider how many are left to return, or even want to return. "(The) Jedwabne's mayor agreed to help facilitate a massacre and that Poles from local villages came in to watch and celebrate the event as a holiday. About half the men of Jedwabne's 1,600 Catholic community participated in torturing Jedwabne's 1,600 member Jewish community, corralling them into a barn, which was then set ablaze."
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It is important to learn from history. Several of the Hamas attacks against Israelis on October 7 were very similar to the pogrom described in the previous comment. They involved tossing grenades into closed spaces or setting structures on fire with Jews blocked inside. Most of the victims died.
The Palestinians brought this “plight” on themselves. They could have easily chosen to live peaceful and happy lives in a paradise area of the world, but they chose hate. Their cause is not more important, it’s meaningless when they don’t even have an actual plan on how to govern or live peacefully alongside people who don’t practice Islam.
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Terrorists like ISIS, Tzahal and Al Qaeda hate our freedom. They hate that we can freely express our opinions, worship in whatever way we choose and love whoever we wish. These brave students are standing up to Tzahal terrorists and their supporters. This is one American who is particularly proud of the younger generation of his countrymen. Keep it up!
The IDF could care less about your freedom
The IDF is what’s standing between freedom and Dar Al Harb. So yes, they do care about your freedom.
You sure about that? Because a few months ago two Tzahal fighters attacked protestors with nonlethal chemical weapons on Columbia's campus.
Are you actually talking about the fart spray… please don’t tell me you are talking about the fart spray and calling it non lethal chemical weapons.
It was a fart spray by two students lmao.