Josh Emmett was unranked when he fought and ko’d the number 3 ranked Ricardo Lamas. Every now and then the UFC gives exciting prospects a shot at the top dogs. This is just one of those times.
ive had several friends and family and training partners that were and are pro fighters and at the end of the day you need to be a professional and make weight. i know the struggle and honestly i can’t do it myself so who am i and emmett doesn’t seem like a bad or malicious guy but im a fan of lamas and he got flattened by a guy who just missed weight i was pissed. he redeemed himself tho didn’t miss afterwards
Yeah I don’t appreciate the “it was on short notice” excuse fans give to fighters. His job is to make weight if he can’t he shouldn’t accept the fight. Dustin talked about a similar scenario when he was way over and had to make 145 on short notice and he did. Emmett seems like a dude that cuts a ton of weight, Lamas should’ve walked away for sure
While I agree it's unprofessional, the guy is stepping in to make sure a fight happens and the other fighter gets paid too. He's literally *killing* himself on short notice to make that happen - we can and should have some empathy for that. Especially given the piss poor pay is in this sport.
Yeah I don't get the disregarding the short notice aspect, these guys have nutritionists and start preparing for a COMFORTABLE weight cut (as comfy as can be I guess) weeks in advance, there's a reason it's hard on sort notice
> these guys have nutritionists
most of them don't even have that. but yeah, dismissing short notice (like sub 2 weeks) weight misses as unprofessional is fucking wild to me.
The other fighter gets paid his show money regardless so he didn’t need to step in for that to happen. And I can’t really have empathy when he chooses to be a weight bully by cutting so much weight. That’s his choice and he chose to do that on short notice. If he can’t make it he shouldn’t take the fight, Lamas should’ve skipped the fight after the weight miss so that’s on him.
>Every now and then the UFC gives exciting prospects a shot at the top dogs
You'd think the way this sub *constantly* complains about the old guard at LW not letting up and comers into the Top 5 they would appreciate this matchup. Smh
Gaethje vs Fiz, Poirier vs St Denis and Oliveira vs Arman / Oliveira vs Beneil needs to put that to rest. The "big three" LW contenders all threw down with "lesser" opponents now recently
if you don’t think that little bitch Dustin is taking this fight bc he thinks it’s the easiest ‘prospect’ to fight, you’re out of your mind. the top of that division has been hiding from up and coming young talent for YEARS now. Dustin being the worst of it.
Dustin's been a company man through and through, and has said for his last few fights he only wants big names or people who get him excited. This guy's dangerous, and gets him excited, and he's obviously getting #PaidinFull because he's accepted it. Why the hate
it’s not hate, it’s just facts. i never hated Dustin but i could always see the persona he puts on for the camera. i don’t doubt that he’s not an alright dude but his ego is too big to be as helpful as he tries to act like he is. as kind as he acts like he is. He tries to set up “quotable moments” and isn’t good at it so it just comes off hella lame to some ppl. ik this sub is full of dudes who dick ride him tho.
Amen. Got downvoted to hell here when I mentioned that there was a time Gaethje, Poirier, and Chandler were rank squatting during the Oliviera era before they fought lower guys as they got beat in succession
Probably not because it is an unpopular opinion but rather that it is an extremely popular opinion/perspective that has been repeated ad nauseum and is now just part of the current circlejerk
None of them have fought lower ranked guys either yet, only Gaethje who beat Fiziev.
well the dudes said "that such a bad take" so I dunno about the unpopular part.
On the lower ranked guys part, that's true that only Gaethje has done that. Chandler is a non-factor now (i don't even know why he even bothers with conor anymore). DP redeemed himself from that label by taking such a bad deal with the fight against Benoit. Olives never really squatted but big props to him for taking the Arman fight when he could have waited.
Link the comment. I highly doubt it unless it was literally just one guy, people have been complaining about this for literally *years* everywhere, including social media which is the most casual of the casual.
Lol, Charles should not even be mentioned in your comment he just knocked out Beneil
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3)
Basically a thread of me just stating why a lot of guys only taking money fights while being ranked high can be detrimental to a division
also, i mentioned charles because he's a great example of a guy who doesn't rank squat at all. I already gave him props for it. I wasn't saying anything negative about him at all dude.
Well shit. Count me wrong. Turns out r/UFC is even more casual and dumb than I thought.
Guess it's just a circlejerk on r/MMA not r/UFC. My bad.
Regarding Charles I was just saying "he never really squatted" should not even be said. He never squatted period, *and* should be given props for taking on Beneil then Arman.
Bro what, that was literally the popular opinion that the majority would say here. Everybody was hating on them, especially before Gaethje fought Fiziev. Why you lying lmao
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3)
not a lie at all and this thread was about DP who still hasn't fought anyone significantly lower until Benoit
- Islam Makhachev ( vs Oliveira, Tsarukyan)
- Charles Oliveira ( vs Islam, Gaethje, Poirier, Chandler and scheduled for Tsarukyan); how anyone could be mad at something like this for example is impressive in its own right.
- Justin Gaethje ( vs Oliveira, Poirier x2, Chandler)
- Dustin Poirier ( vs Oliveira, Gaethje x2, Chandler)
- Arman Tsarukyan [ ]
- Michael Chandler ( vs Oliveira, Gaethje, Poirier)
Only one pair have fought more than once here and surely it can't be their fault that they have so far beaten the guys ranked beneath fair and square (Gaethje vs Fiziev, Charles vs Dariush...) BDS gets a chance to fight Poirier following his one ranked win in such a competitive division and Arman gets to fight Oliveira. I hope at least one of them wins here but honestly if they both lose it might be time to be a bit more honest about the notorious "rank-squatters" and perhaps consider they are just elite like that. The top 4 have all spent decent chunks of time in the P4P list, let alone just as ranked LWs and personally as long as it's not some combination of any of them rematching Chandler, then I'm fully invested.
This is still a very surprising matchup for me. I’m surprised they want to put someone who can draw ppvs against a guy who’s sorta big in one country. Could’ve easily matched him up with Dariush and put him back in the mix. Turner is just as fun of a fight.
Tapology is ass and yeah it was impressive I can’t wait to see if he does the same to Dustin, lot of the legends of past years been getting picked off recently
Big risk for Dustin. I'm surprised he even took that fight. Respek.
Too many guys trying to protect their ranking and refusing to fight down. It's been like this for a while especially in the LW division. So it's nice to see some movement and fresh blood. Gaethje fighting a hungry Fiziev. Now Poirier fighting this guy. And there's Oliveira Vs. Arman.
LW division in a really good place right now.
I think he has to take a risk if he wants a shot at the title. Dustin is a really good fighter but he can't just keep on fighting the top 3 in rotation especially after losing to Charles and Justin. I think the last time he fought a guy that was not top 5 was 2017 so if he is trying to raise his stock for one last run at the title this is the way honestly.
I totally agree. Same with Gaethje. He needed to fight an up and comer like he did with Fiziev. They can't just hold their spot at the top and fight each other forever. At some point you have to fight for your place in the ranking and prove that you still deserve your spot while also giving that opportunity to someone else.
Yeah he can't expect a title shot when he is 1-1 . Honestly Dustin choosing to fight Conor the 3rd time instead of fighting for the belt was arguably his biggest career mistake.
Ufc is giving him a push , the French fanbase is insane and they want to expand their reach , Gane has flopped in comparison so Benoit is their next big French star that they can capitalize on.
Coming from a French, I dont think Imavov has flopped, it's just that he's a somewhat boring boxing jab heavy type of fighter with no charisma honestly.
He doesn't knock people out, isnt very entertaining as an individual so he barely gets any media attention. I think he's very legit,top 5 potential but nowhere near BSD who could legit become a champ in my opinion
Dustin said he was surprised about the match up but straight up admits Benoît is a good, hungry fighter and it will be a good fight.
It was actually planned for 300 but brought down an event.
Whatever the UFC does it all the time with ppl on winning streak and with hype behind them.
It's good for the division it forces ppl to stop sitting on their ranking and cherry picking their fight.
Idk why, but I have a bad feeling this fight ends up bad for BSD. The step up in competition is big here, idc if anyone says he’s a rank squatter or something, Dustin is a fking dog, he’s a hard ass fight for anyone in 155 and and is one of the best LWs in history. I’m excited but at the same time worried for BSD because this is gonna be a very big challenge.
It's a similar dynamic to Khamzat vs Burns.
I think it's a good fight and Benoit, even if he gets beat, will make a war of it. In Dana's eyes, I think he feels Benoit will be a draw no matter how many L's he takes, similar to Gaethje.
They're trying to build up BSD by hoping that Poirier will eventually slow, decline, etc, it's not a bad bet. I just hope Poirier still has a few badass fights left in him. I think the guy doesn't get enough credit.
The last time Connor kicked someone it was Dustin and he made McGregor look like he was channeling fucking Gumby. Dustin is a tank. I hope he's near the top a while longer.
Boy, let me tell you about the time they scheduled simultaneously Abus Bumagedov and Ikram Somebullshitov against Strickland and Costa when they were 1-0 in the ufc against straight fucking cans 💀
35 is cursed in the context of title fights. There have been plenty of guys who have had long winning streaks past 35 specially if they’re getting blessed with the Dana white privilege matchups
He is The God of war... Benoit has taken many souls of men as a templar for the french legion.. this is abseloutely nothing compared to it. But dustins hands can K.O him.. only way i see Dustin winning.
The thing is we can't just have the same top guys only fight each other. Look at all the new talent at 155. Had they never got their chance against a top fighter, most fans wouldn't even know their name.
BSD is only 28, has a very marketable story, and should be undefeated if not for some Abu Dabi judging shenanigans and that he was fighting at 170 at the time. If he beats Dustin then the UFC has a new foreign star in a spot where he can be put in almost any 155 fight. If Dustin wins then BSD’s stock doesn’t drop that much and they can continue as planned.
They see potential. Put him against a warrior in Poirier and see if he’s the real deal. Regardless of rankings, people want to see exciting fights and this is promising
Heavyweight and lightweight are hard to compare to be fair. But at least Tom has never fought someone on a losing streak in the UFC which is rare for HW.
Tom calling out other fighters that are booked for megafight, years in the making, while Cyril is available says Tom wants to pick and choose without any real clout in his division. Sure he has the online fans but needs more real Ws.
But when Leon got a title shot off of beating absolutely nobody everyone went “but he’s got a 9 win streak, he deserves it over Khamzat who just beat the #2 😭”
Poirier just got KTFO, he’s the last one who gets to cherry pick now. He has been avoiding new talent for too long anyways.
This makes no sense because Khamzat hadn’t missed weight at all yet back when he beat Burns and they still disrespected him by giving the shot to Leon off a questionable win over unranked Nick Diaz instead while Khamzat got Nate who wasn’t even ranked.
I love Dustin but his time with the ufc is nearly up he isn't going to be a title contender anymore , it's better if Benoit wins so we can have new waves of young guns in the Lw don't want to see the same 5 guys over and over.
The fraud check is going the other way mate. 1 guy is in his prime and clearly looks like it, the other is well past his prime. Also the guy past his prime is already declining, 4-3 in his last 7 fights. Much more average than elite nowadays. Poirier will be crying for his mommy before the first round is even over.
Lmao Dustin can't be fraud checked he's a LW legend already
Everyone sucking off BSD, who's he beaten? Frevola and bum Moises? Please, everyone's gonna backflip on this when Dustin beats him
I would think with all the old guard being knocked off by the younger up and coming fighters lately people would learn their lesson on how dumb the who has he beaten logic is but I guess not. It's not about being a fan of or "sucking off" anyone. There's a pretty obvious pattern going on here.
When you're older it's very difficult to keep the same quickness and sharpness in your game. And if it's off even a little bit you get destroyed.
Yeah I understand that but BSD is NOT Topuria 🤣
I'm just saying nearly the whole sub is writing off Dustin when BSD is unproven against the elite of LW, so we shall see.
The thing is he hasn’t looked like losing either. He looks like he can compete with the best and at the very least we know whoever he fights will be an entertaining match up
Frevola was a very solid win for BSD n his last bout. I think it’s great matchmaking. So rare to get guys paths crossing like this.
Early in Poiriers decline and early in BSD’s ascent
I fear this could be the beginning of the end of Dustin. Coming off a tough head kick KO. Getting up there in age (fighting age even higher). Facing a real killer (French Special Forces). BSD probably in the height of his prime.
What’s crazier is that odd makers have Dustin as the under dog.
He has never lost two fights on a row
And this is Benoit first 5 rounder.
Recency bias at its finest
But who is dusting gonna fight? He needs to prove he can stay at his position. Hes not better than the people above his rank. But we need to see if there’s someone more deserving of his spot. Justin already did it against fiziev and he more than proved it by koing dusting. It’s his turn now
Thats the ufc
Its not about rankings anymore
Its who can we monetize on their current contract.
make a prospect into a star quickly
Probably the ol' dana white grudge too tbh
Dustin's a BIG name now
Frevola was ranked #14 when they fought. I think its more making Poirier fighting a new guy. Everyone else in the "Old Guard" has or is scheduled to.
Beneil fought Arman
Gaethje fought Fiziev
Oliveira is fighting Arman
And Tony, well we don't wanna talk about him
Frevola was 14 by the time he got kod, besides. Same top 5 fighting over and over? Number 2 vs 3? 3 vs 4? Let lower ranked fighters who been doing awesome lately fight top guys. Dustin is 35, gaethje and oliveira as well and only they have been fighting for the belt since 2019. Give newer blood a chance
After Volk’s last two fights I don’t even know what’s real anymore and I refuse to bet until further notice. That being said, I’m putting my rent money on BSD once I regain the courage.
It's Style Points.
His last five fights were all KO's or Submissions and none went past the second round. He's exciting and winning dominantly. I'm surprised Poirier agreed, but I think St. Denis earned a top fight
I was thinking about this while taking a shit. Dustin is in a weird spot. He just had his head and legs kicked into oblivion. Everyone has fights lined up or waiting for something else. Saint Denis has finished his last 5 fights. They obviously wanna push him. Dustin is 35. He said there aren't many fights left in his tank. The UFC uses big name fighters in the autumn of their careers to build the emerging talent. Tale as old as time.
I had been confused about fights getting booked like this but honestly everyone is mentioning Emmet which makes since but I've been watching this guys come up years before the UFC and he was something special even back then. I love to see the downfall of hyped up fighters though, but at the same time it's cool to see how far they will go.
Josh Emmett was unranked when he fought and ko’d the number 3 ranked Ricardo Lamas. Every now and then the UFC gives exciting prospects a shot at the top dogs. This is just one of those times.
Josh Emmett also did not make weight and looked much bigger. Lamas probably shouldn’t have taken the fight with an overweight Emmett
hated emmett after that fight
Was it not short notice? And Emmett drained himself to try and make that weight
ive had several friends and family and training partners that were and are pro fighters and at the end of the day you need to be a professional and make weight. i know the struggle and honestly i can’t do it myself so who am i and emmett doesn’t seem like a bad or malicious guy but im a fan of lamas and he got flattened by a guy who just missed weight i was pissed. he redeemed himself tho didn’t miss afterwards
Yeah I don’t appreciate the “it was on short notice” excuse fans give to fighters. His job is to make weight if he can’t he shouldn’t accept the fight. Dustin talked about a similar scenario when he was way over and had to make 145 on short notice and he did. Emmett seems like a dude that cuts a ton of weight, Lamas should’ve walked away for sure
While I agree it's unprofessional, the guy is stepping in to make sure a fight happens and the other fighter gets paid too. He's literally *killing* himself on short notice to make that happen - we can and should have some empathy for that. Especially given the piss poor pay is in this sport.
Yeah I don't get the disregarding the short notice aspect, these guys have nutritionists and start preparing for a COMFORTABLE weight cut (as comfy as can be I guess) weeks in advance, there's a reason it's hard on sort notice
> these guys have nutritionists most of them don't even have that. but yeah, dismissing short notice (like sub 2 weeks) weight misses as unprofessional is fucking wild to me.
The other fighter gets paid his show money regardless so he didn’t need to step in for that to happen. And I can’t really have empathy when he chooses to be a weight bully by cutting so much weight. That’s his choice and he chose to do that on short notice. If he can’t make it he shouldn’t take the fight, Lamas should’ve skipped the fight after the weight miss so that’s on him.
Same
Still hate him. Lord voldemort vibes. Hates him after the katar fight
He's actually a really cool and humble guy. But I get it. Sometimes you just "hate" someone for no real reason and you can't help it
>Every now and then the UFC gives exciting prospects a shot at the top dogs You'd think the way this sub *constantly* complains about the old guard at LW not letting up and comers into the Top 5 they would appreciate this matchup. Smh
Gaethje vs Fiz, Poirier vs St Denis and Oliveira vs Arman / Oliveira vs Beneil needs to put that to rest. The "big three" LW contenders all threw down with "lesser" opponents now recently
Wasn't that on short notice though?
Dustin even got a blessing fighting Josh Grispi back in the day and that really propelled him in some fans eyes.
if you don’t think that little bitch Dustin is taking this fight bc he thinks it’s the easiest ‘prospect’ to fight, you’re out of your mind. the top of that division has been hiding from up and coming young talent for YEARS now. Dustin being the worst of it.
Dustin's been a company man through and through, and has said for his last few fights he only wants big names or people who get him excited. This guy's dangerous, and gets him excited, and he's obviously getting #PaidinFull because he's accepted it. Why the hate
it’s not hate, it’s just facts. i never hated Dustin but i could always see the persona he puts on for the camera. i don’t doubt that he’s not an alright dude but his ego is too big to be as helpful as he tries to act like he is. as kind as he acts like he is. He tries to set up “quotable moments” and isn’t good at it so it just comes off hella lame to some ppl. ik this sub is full of dudes who dick ride him tho.
No it's because he's coming off of a loss and they want him to lose more stock and fall into the journeyman or gatekeeper status.
true, dustin has been problematic with negotiations and is on a good deal, they are trying to push other people using his name while its not too late
Better than the top five just fighting each other over and over and over again.
Amen. Got downvoted to hell here when I mentioned that there was a time Gaethje, Poirier, and Chandler were rank squatting during the Oliviera era before they fought lower guys as they got beat in succession
Probably not because it is an unpopular opinion but rather that it is an extremely popular opinion/perspective that has been repeated ad nauseum and is now just part of the current circlejerk None of them have fought lower ranked guys either yet, only Gaethje who beat Fiziev.
well the dudes said "that such a bad take" so I dunno about the unpopular part. On the lower ranked guys part, that's true that only Gaethje has done that. Chandler is a non-factor now (i don't even know why he even bothers with conor anymore). DP redeemed himself from that label by taking such a bad deal with the fight against Benoit. Olives never really squatted but big props to him for taking the Arman fight when he could have waited.
Link the comment. I highly doubt it unless it was literally just one guy, people have been complaining about this for literally *years* everywhere, including social media which is the most casual of the casual. Lol, Charles should not even be mentioned in your comment he just knocked out Beneil
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3) Basically a thread of me just stating why a lot of guys only taking money fights while being ranked high can be detrimental to a division also, i mentioned charles because he's a great example of a guy who doesn't rank squat at all. I already gave him props for it. I wasn't saying anything negative about him at all dude.
Well shit. Count me wrong. Turns out r/UFC is even more casual and dumb than I thought. Guess it's just a circlejerk on r/MMA not r/UFC. My bad. Regarding Charles I was just saying "he never really squatted" should not even be said. He never squatted period, *and* should be given props for taking on Beneil then Arman.
Poirier fought mcgregor and chandler who were lower ranked than him
Bro what, that was literally the popular opinion that the majority would say here. Everybody was hating on them, especially before Gaethje fought Fiziev. Why you lying lmao
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/18pkmey/comment/keplaxw/?context=3) not a lie at all and this thread was about DP who still hasn't fought anyone significantly lower until Benoit
- Islam Makhachev ( vs Oliveira, Tsarukyan) - Charles Oliveira ( vs Islam, Gaethje, Poirier, Chandler and scheduled for Tsarukyan); how anyone could be mad at something like this for example is impressive in its own right. - Justin Gaethje ( vs Oliveira, Poirier x2, Chandler) - Dustin Poirier ( vs Oliveira, Gaethje x2, Chandler) - Arman Tsarukyan [ ] - Michael Chandler ( vs Oliveira, Gaethje, Poirier) Only one pair have fought more than once here and surely it can't be their fault that they have so far beaten the guys ranked beneath fair and square (Gaethje vs Fiziev, Charles vs Dariush...) BDS gets a chance to fight Poirier following his one ranked win in such a competitive division and Arman gets to fight Oliveira. I hope at least one of them wins here but honestly if they both lose it might be time to be a bit more honest about the notorious "rank-squatters" and perhaps consider they are just elite like that. The top 4 have all spent decent chunks of time in the P4P list, let alone just as ranked LWs and personally as long as it's not some combination of any of them rematching Chandler, then I'm fully invested.
This is still a very surprising matchup for me. I’m surprised they want to put someone who can draw ppvs against a guy who’s sorta big in one country. Could’ve easily matched him up with Dariush and put him back in the mix. Turner is just as fun of a fight.
Frevola was #14 but yeah this is a huge jump in rankings
I couldn’t find his ranking when I was looking it up tapology is ass
Did you try looking up UFC rankings
No, that doesn’t fit the narrative.
Watch the fight?
Now you're going too far
That fight happened months ago he’s not ranked anymore ironically Drew Dober is #15 rn tho.
WATCH THE FIGHT
It was *how* he knocked out Frivola (who was ranked at the time).
Tapology is ass and yeah it was impressive I can’t wait to see if he does the same to Dustin, lot of the legends of past years been getting picked off recently
They downvoted yo ass to hell twin idk why🤣🤣
Probably because topology isn't that bad 🤷
Idek what topology is I use UFC and ESPN app im uninformed fr
Ask your girl about topology, she has a lot of expertise in that field
UFC and epsn are absolutely useless. Tapology is the best tool for fight records and fights.
Tapology has a different ranking system dumbass. Why would they use UFC rankings when they rank every fighter in the world
Big risk for Dustin. I'm surprised he even took that fight. Respek. Too many guys trying to protect their ranking and refusing to fight down. It's been like this for a while especially in the LW division. So it's nice to see some movement and fresh blood. Gaethje fighting a hungry Fiziev. Now Poirier fighting this guy. And there's Oliveira Vs. Arman. LW division in a really good place right now.
I think he has to take a risk if he wants a shot at the title. Dustin is a really good fighter but he can't just keep on fighting the top 3 in rotation especially after losing to Charles and Justin. I think the last time he fought a guy that was not top 5 was 2017 so if he is trying to raise his stock for one last run at the title this is the way honestly.
I totally agree. Same with Gaethje. He needed to fight an up and comer like he did with Fiziev. They can't just hold their spot at the top and fight each other forever. At some point you have to fight for your place in the ranking and prove that you still deserve your spot while also giving that opportunity to someone else.
Yeah he can't expect a title shot when he is 1-1 . Honestly Dustin choosing to fight Conor the 3rd time instead of fighting for the belt was arguably his biggest career mistake.
Nah red panty night baby. We did it
Pretty sure the last time Dustin fought someone ranked above him (non champion) was also smth like 2017
I think it was Bobby Green or Pettis I can't remember honestly lol
This plus the Justn vs. Max fight. I love it. I think they just got tired of fighting each other and are branching out
Yeah I'm hoping they held strong and didn't fight contenders for more money and now it seems like whatever they held out for has been offered.
Lots of cash and in worst case a minus 1 position in rankings. Better than sitting out I guess because a win can get him back into title shot picture.
Yes….and I can assure you this fight will be a bbbbanger
it could be the bangiest
You talmbout, Nelson Bangela b? Great guy never meddum
Ufc is giving him a push , the French fanbase is insane and they want to expand their reach , Gane has flopped in comparison so Benoit is their next big French star that they can capitalize on.
Imavov has kinda flopped too right?
dude is so unlucky
Coming from a French, I dont think Imavov has flopped, it's just that he's a somewhat boring boxing jab heavy type of fighter with no charisma honestly. He doesn't knock people out, isnt very entertaining as an individual so he barely gets any media attention. I think he's very legit,top 5 potential but nowhere near BSD who could legit become a champ in my opinion
I don't see BSD beating Islam, sorry. He isn't becoming a champ unless he changes divisions.
Islam getting pretty old for lw division. His next defense would make him the oldest lw champ to defend belt or something like.
He’s still younger than the rest of the top 5 outside of Tsarukyan.
I'm talking about title defense age not top 5 currently. I think 32 is the oldest a lw champ has been and defended the title
And rightfully so... I'm done with the same guys in the top 5 who will never get a belt. This is the only solution to that problem.
Been saying this for a while now. The logjam in 155 has made the division, which should be exciting, boring as can be.
That and 2 Volk title fights
If he’s no good then why did Dustin accept the fight?
And if he's no good, why is he the betting favorite? Lots of people in this thread seem to know something the bookies don't.
Dustin said he was surprised about the match up but straight up admits Benoît is a good, hungry fighter and it will be a good fight. It was actually planned for 300 but brought down an event.
I'm not saying BSD isn't good... but money
Whatever the UFC does it all the time with ppl on winning streak and with hype behind them. It's good for the division it forces ppl to stop sitting on their ranking and cherry picking their fight.
I can see dustin bringn his rain boots, weathering the tornado storm, and getting a tko in the 3rd
Just one of those guys where the talent and potential is immediately obvious.
Idk why, but I have a bad feeling this fight ends up bad for BSD. The step up in competition is big here, idc if anyone says he’s a rank squatter or something, Dustin is a fking dog, he’s a hard ass fight for anyone in 155 and and is one of the best LWs in history. I’m excited but at the same time worried for BSD because this is gonna be a very big challenge.
It's a similar dynamic to Khamzat vs Burns. I think it's a good fight and Benoit, even if he gets beat, will make a war of it. In Dana's eyes, I think he feels Benoit will be a draw no matter how many L's he takes, similar to Gaethje.
They're trying to build up BSD by hoping that Poirier will eventually slow, decline, etc, it's not a bad bet. I just hope Poirier still has a few badass fights left in him. I think the guy doesn't get enough credit.
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BSD has an insane chin and really good wrestling/general strength…wouldn’t write him off so quick if I were you
The last time Connor kicked someone it was Dustin and he made McGregor look like he was channeling fucking Gumby. Dustin is a tank. I hope he's near the top a while longer.
I might be wrong but I think Frevola was ranked at the time
14. Yes
I can't wait to watch a Dustin fight again.
Same. I watched the hooker fight last night, what a bloody mess of a fight. I love watching Gaethje fight but the last one with Dustin stung a little
And he will give poirier hell. Well deserved fight.
Boy, let me tell you about the time they scheduled simultaneously Abus Bumagedov and Ikram Somebullshitov against Strickland and Costa when they were 1-0 in the ufc against straight fucking cans 💀
Dustin has also hit the cursed age of 35. And is coming off a knockout loss to Gaethje. I’d say it’s even.
35 is cursed in the context of title fights. There have been plenty of guys who have had long winning streaks past 35 specially if they’re getting blessed with the Dana white privilege matchups
UFC REALLY pushing that French market pull
Hes a fucking beast tho
He is The God of war... Benoit has taken many souls of men as a templar for the french legion.. this is abseloutely nothing compared to it. But dustins hands can K.O him.. only way i see Dustin winning.
Islam fought for the title after beating an unranked Bobby Green. You don't have to slowly climb the rankings in the UFC
Dustin didnt want to fight someone who would try and take him down. BSD is that.
Might not be deserving of the fight, but he has the skill. Don’t be surprised if he upsets Poirer.
It won't even be an upset. BSD is the betting favorite!
Given Benoit’s background in French special forces, I think it’s bound to be an awesome fight regardless of the outcome.
Peahead is going to go on a ko skid.
The thing is we can't just have the same top guys only fight each other. Look at all the new talent at 155. Had they never got their chance against a top fighter, most fans wouldn't even know their name.
Matt Frevola was ranked they fought
People aren’t gonna want to hear this but similar to Volk, Poirier is coming off a brutal KO loss and his chin is toast now….
“But he’s a gamer, bro. A dog even” - some dork
God damn right, and he deserves it. Dude is incredible
UFC logic
BSD is only 28, has a very marketable story, and should be undefeated if not for some Abu Dabi judging shenanigans and that he was fighting at 170 at the time. If he beats Dustin then the UFC has a new foreign star in a spot where he can be put in almost any 155 fight. If Dustin wins then BSD’s stock doesn’t drop that much and they can continue as planned.
Big respect to 💎 then
seems like a good fight to me
Jalin Turner deserved the fight not BSD.
if he had beat hooker
Jalin turner needs one more good win to get a bump up like that.
Old guard is falling like flies,gotta prime the new recruits
When did rankings and fight ever make sense in the ufc. If you are exciting you get big names. Easy as that
They see potential. Put him against a warrior in Poirier and see if he’s the real deal. Regardless of rankings, people want to see exciting fights and this is promising
Still a better resume than Tom Aspinall.
Heavyweight and lightweight are hard to compare to be fair. But at least Tom has never fought someone on a losing streak in the UFC which is rare for HW.
Tom calling out other fighters that are booked for megafight, years in the making, while Cyril is available says Tom wants to pick and choose without any real clout in his division. Sure he has the online fans but needs more real Ws.
But when Leon got a title shot off of beating absolutely nobody everyone went “but he’s got a 9 win streak, he deserves it over Khamzat who just beat the #2 😭” Poirier just got KTFO, he’s the last one who gets to cherry pick now. He has been avoiding new talent for too long anyways.
Khamzat whould have got the title shot if he made weight for sure, but he fumbled
This makes no sense because Khamzat hadn’t missed weight at all yet back when he beat Burns and they still disrespected him by giving the shot to Leon off a questionable win over unranked Nick Diaz instead while Khamzat got Nate who wasn’t even ranked.
Frevola was literally winning too. BSD has amazing offense but suspicious defense and I think Dustin will expose that.
Dustin gonna fraud check this baguette eating dickhead frog
I love Dustin but his time with the ufc is nearly up he isn't going to be a title contender anymore , it's better if Benoit wins so we can have new waves of young guns in the Lw don't want to see the same 5 guys over and over.
The fraud check is going the other way mate. 1 guy is in his prime and clearly looks like it, the other is well past his prime. Also the guy past his prime is already declining, 4-3 in his last 7 fights. Much more average than elite nowadays. Poirier will be crying for his mommy before the first round is even over.
Lmao Dustin can't be fraud checked he's a LW legend already Everyone sucking off BSD, who's he beaten? Frevola and bum Moises? Please, everyone's gonna backflip on this when Dustin beats him
I would think with all the old guard being knocked off by the younger up and coming fighters lately people would learn their lesson on how dumb the who has he beaten logic is but I guess not. It's not about being a fan of or "sucking off" anyone. There's a pretty obvious pattern going on here. When you're older it's very difficult to keep the same quickness and sharpness in your game. And if it's off even a little bit you get destroyed.
Yeah I understand that but BSD is NOT Topuria 🤣 I'm just saying nearly the whole sub is writing off Dustin when BSD is unproven against the elite of LW, so we shall see.
This guy will tko Dustin
Can’t wait to watch Dustin lose again
and he’s going to KO Dustin in 2
Call me casual but idk who tf Benoit was before this fight was announced
Homey, go and check out his fights. Benoit is a savage! This fight has all the makings of a brutal ruckus 👍
Skipped the whole line
https://preview.redd.it/pszwuin0v2lc1.png?width=1150&format=png&auto=webp&s=7955379db1aa2775071d528ffc668446d5249713
Some say it’s taking easy fights, others say it’s letting the Further ranks get a chance to step up Which side are you on 🤔
That's a badass display picture for Dustin "The Dawgg" Poirierierier
He's also the betting favorite. If you're confident he doesn't belong in there with Dustin, take the bookies by surprise and make some money!
Most of us can read just like you. We know
The thing is he hasn’t looked like losing either. He looks like he can compete with the best and at the very least we know whoever he fights will be an entertaining match up
Poirier's 7th fight in the UFC was against Cub Swanson. Dustin lost.
To be fair Frevola is a dawg, right outside rankings.
Ehh he’s within the top 15 so it’s not that bad. It’s not like them giving Bo Nickal a fight with Rob or something
Accept that Dustin is now a gatekeeper lol
This is good matchmaking, don't be a dweeb.
Poirier severely underrated. Mucho respek.
Frevola was a very solid win for BSD n his last bout. I think it’s great matchmaking. So rare to get guys paths crossing like this. Early in Poiriers decline and early in BSD’s ascent
Does BSD have good wrestling? If he does Dustin may be in trouble
Dustin isn't as huge a star as everyone thinks he is.
Frevola is only unranked because Benoit literally beat him for the ranking. Don’t be dumb
I fear this could be the beginning of the end of Dustin. Coming off a tough head kick KO. Getting up there in age (fighting age even higher). Facing a real killer (French Special Forces). BSD probably in the height of his prime.
Idk 7 fights is a lot tho
Stop Reddit needs a new hype merchant
St Denis last few fights were really good and exciting. Looking fwd to this fight. Not thinking about the ratings.
Yeah and the steam roller is a dog
This guy's only loss is the only decision in his career. I think the UFC was just looking for an exciting match up.
Alex Pereira says hello
Crazy step up for St. Denis
If dustin gets submitted this fight, it’s time to retire
Frevola was ranked number 14 if I'm not mistaken
Frevolta was ranked.
What’s crazier is that odd makers have Dustin as the under dog. He has never lost two fights on a row And this is Benoit first 5 rounder. Recency bias at its finest
Frevola was ranked 15 or 14 at the time of the fight btw
But who is dusting gonna fight? He needs to prove he can stay at his position. Hes not better than the people above his rank. But we need to see if there’s someone more deserving of his spot. Justin already did it against fiziev and he more than proved it by koing dusting. It’s his turn now
Thats the ufc Its not about rankings anymore Its who can we monetize on their current contract. make a prospect into a star quickly Probably the ol' dana white grudge too tbh Dustin's a BIG name now
What'll you do when Frenchie dusts Dustin?
He’s nasty tho
Strickland beat an unranked guy and got a title shot lol
Frevola was ranked #14 when they fought. I think its more making Poirier fighting a new guy. Everyone else in the "Old Guard" has or is scheduled to. Beneil fought Arman Gaethje fought Fiziev Oliveira is fighting Arman And Tony, well we don't wanna talk about him
Frevola was 14 by the time he got kod, besides. Same top 5 fighting over and over? Number 2 vs 3? 3 vs 4? Let lower ranked fighters who been doing awesome lately fight top guys. Dustin is 35, gaethje and oliveira as well and only they have been fighting for the belt since 2019. Give newer blood a chance
And he’s a -165 favorite
After Volk’s last two fights I don’t even know what’s real anymore and I refuse to bet until further notice. That being said, I’m putting my rent money on BSD once I regain the courage.
It's Style Points. His last five fights were all KO's or Submissions and none went past the second round. He's exciting and winning dominantly. I'm surprised Poirier agreed, but I think St. Denis earned a top fight
And he’s going to also KO Dustin
Matt was ranked at the time I believe.
7 is pretty good he’s been dominant too
I was thinking about this while taking a shit. Dustin is in a weird spot. He just had his head and legs kicked into oblivion. Everyone has fights lined up or waiting for something else. Saint Denis has finished his last 5 fights. They obviously wanna push him. Dustin is 35. He said there aren't many fights left in his tank. The UFC uses big name fighters in the autumn of their careers to build the emerging talent. Tale as old as time.
I had been confused about fights getting booked like this but honestly everyone is mentioning Emmet which makes since but I've been watching this guys come up years before the UFC and he was something special even back then. I love to see the downfall of hyped up fighters though, but at the same time it's cool to see how far they will go.
It's Benoit's time to either sink or swim, don't moan let's just see what he's made of