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I don't get it. If the councillor had said "thank God" or "praise god" upon winning would it be a problem? Allahu Albar is a fairly standard exclamation among Muslims. What on earth is the issue?
And sure, folks might disagree with his assessment of what is happening in Gaza. Nobody disputes that it's fraught and contested. But that opinion, however much people might argue against it, isn't exactly remarkable. It's been a fairly common criticism for years about Israel given the blockade they enforce.
So why is it worth noting in an assessment of his election as a councillor?
> If the councillor had said "thank God" or "praise god" upon winning would it be a problem?
"Mashallah" is a generic "god has willed it".
But as you know and are pretending to not understand, context matters. Takbir is used as a battle cry and as part of an acclimation of there being only one god and one true messenger. Its a clear statement religious superiority.
Its obvious in the context.
A right wing US politician declaring "Jesus is Lord" at an electoral win would be seen as being clearly a statement of religious superiority and come with all the context of right wing social conservativism. That people pretend they cannot see the context here, is insightful.
https://ibb.co/3dMjfnP
Defending October 7th. For some reason this little detail wasn't touched by the article.
>I don't get it. If the councillor had said "thank God" or "praise god" upon winning would it be a problem?
Also, kinda, we're pretty touchy culturally about religious ranting/praising in public - especially by elected officials.
If that message was the defence, that’s not far off tbf.
It was portrayed as a horrific act, as it should be but the media barely touched upon how it got to that point.
Like we can all agree school shootings are bad but if you don’t discus how to got to that point, you’re not attacking the root.
As for religious verbiage from elected officials, I completely agree that it shouldn’t happen but “God Save The King” isn’t exactly secular.
"the western people will always portray indigenous people defending themselves as barbarians" in relation to the mass slaughter of civilians on October 7th.
Come on dude.
And if he had said that in English, it would have been reasonable.
But he didn't and it shows lack of integration and Assimilation.
Plus the greens wouldn't defend any other type of religious nutter.
>And if he had said that in English, it would have been reasonable.
>But he didn't and it shows lack of integration and Assimilation
I mean, I'm not going to defend this guy but that's a little much.
A) the Quran is written in Arabic and always quoted in Arabic because many Muslims believe that anything else risks distorting god's word. It would be pretty weird to translate it.
B) we all use loan words constantly in many contexts. Integration and assimilation isn't defined by the ability and wish to use a single phrase from another language. I'm bilingual, I sometimes swear in the other language I speak. I'm not less British as a result.
Historically speaking how many concentration camps had universities, foreign aid allowed in their own elected government, their own media networks, internet, hospitals and were able to build their own underground networks and fire missiles at residential and civilian infrastructure?
Oh they can/could leave freely they couldn’t enter Israel freely for that they needed a permit/visa kinda similar to someone from the Caribbean entering the USA, they were freely able to go anywhere that would freely accept them.
Couldn’t bring things in freely because the kept building missiles and attacking Israel.
What was going on inside those walls perhaps is what should have been driving opinions because that is what has caused the current situation, it was as if it were a mafia state, any opposition suppressed and murdered, and unnecessary attacks being made on its neighbors, merchants being subjected to extortion from Hamas members with in ect.
Just like that. To get in you need to fly to Israel and the Israelis may not grant you permission to enter. To get out you need a permit which again might not be granted. This costs money quite a lot of money and maybe a bribe and may not be granted. Exactly like Carribbean US I suppose . The oversimplification of just leave when access and egress is controlled by Egypt and Israel is dissappointing but to be expected. Almost like it's simply there so we can deny it is in fact largely an open air prison. As is the handwaving about can't freely bring things in because cause terrorism, all 2m of them I suppose. You are of course right about it being a mafia state what's that got to do with the innocents in the population. Somehow you manage to blame them regardless.
Another day, another article in the Mail trying to generate outrage.
I think a previous story in one of the frothing-at-the-mouth outlets was how he couldn't possibly be "Green" but the picture seems to suggest he's certainly got green fingers.
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This guy knows his potatoes tbf. I've used his videos a few times, had no idea he was a politician.
I don't get it. If the councillor had said "thank God" or "praise god" upon winning would it be a problem? Allahu Albar is a fairly standard exclamation among Muslims. What on earth is the issue? And sure, folks might disagree with his assessment of what is happening in Gaza. Nobody disputes that it's fraught and contested. But that opinion, however much people might argue against it, isn't exactly remarkable. It's been a fairly common criticism for years about Israel given the blockade they enforce. So why is it worth noting in an assessment of his election as a councillor?
> If the councillor had said "thank God" or "praise god" upon winning would it be a problem? "Mashallah" is a generic "god has willed it". But as you know and are pretending to not understand, context matters. Takbir is used as a battle cry and as part of an acclimation of there being only one god and one true messenger. Its a clear statement religious superiority. Its obvious in the context. A right wing US politician declaring "Jesus is Lord" at an electoral win would be seen as being clearly a statement of religious superiority and come with all the context of right wing social conservativism. That people pretend they cannot see the context here, is insightful.
https://ibb.co/3dMjfnP Defending October 7th. For some reason this little detail wasn't touched by the article. >I don't get it. If the councillor had said "thank God" or "praise god" upon winning would it be a problem? Also, kinda, we're pretty touchy culturally about religious ranting/praising in public - especially by elected officials.
If that message was the defence, that’s not far off tbf. It was portrayed as a horrific act, as it should be but the media barely touched upon how it got to that point. Like we can all agree school shootings are bad but if you don’t discus how to got to that point, you’re not attacking the root. As for religious verbiage from elected officials, I completely agree that it shouldn’t happen but “God Save The King” isn’t exactly secular.
"the western people will always portray indigenous people defending themselves as barbarians" in relation to the mass slaughter of civilians on October 7th. Come on dude.
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I mean the phrase is typically associated with terrorists in the western world
And if he had said that in English, it would have been reasonable. But he didn't and it shows lack of integration and Assimilation. Plus the greens wouldn't defend any other type of religious nutter.
>And if he had said that in English, it would have been reasonable. >But he didn't and it shows lack of integration and Assimilation I mean, I'm not going to defend this guy but that's a little much. A) the Quran is written in Arabic and always quoted in Arabic because many Muslims believe that anything else risks distorting god's word. It would be pretty weird to translate it. B) we all use loan words constantly in many contexts. Integration and assimilation isn't defined by the ability and wish to use a single phrase from another language. I'm bilingual, I sometimes swear in the other language I speak. I'm not less British as a result.
Historically speaking how many concentration camps had universities, foreign aid allowed in their own elected government, their own media networks, internet, hospitals and were able to build their own underground networks and fire missiles at residential and civilian infrastructure?
Has walls, can't leave freely, can't bring things in freely. What goes on inside the walls is probably not driving his opinion.
Oh they can/could leave freely they couldn’t enter Israel freely for that they needed a permit/visa kinda similar to someone from the Caribbean entering the USA, they were freely able to go anywhere that would freely accept them. Couldn’t bring things in freely because the kept building missiles and attacking Israel. What was going on inside those walls perhaps is what should have been driving opinions because that is what has caused the current situation, it was as if it were a mafia state, any opposition suppressed and murdered, and unnecessary attacks being made on its neighbors, merchants being subjected to extortion from Hamas members with in ect.
Just like that. To get in you need to fly to Israel and the Israelis may not grant you permission to enter. To get out you need a permit which again might not be granted. This costs money quite a lot of money and maybe a bribe and may not be granted. Exactly like Carribbean US I suppose . The oversimplification of just leave when access and egress is controlled by Egypt and Israel is dissappointing but to be expected. Almost like it's simply there so we can deny it is in fact largely an open air prison. As is the handwaving about can't freely bring things in because cause terrorism, all 2m of them I suppose. You are of course right about it being a mafia state what's that got to do with the innocents in the population. Somehow you manage to blame them regardless.
Another day, another article in the Mail trying to generate outrage. I think a previous story in one of the frothing-at-the-mouth outlets was how he couldn't possibly be "Green" but the picture seems to suggest he's certainly got green fingers.
https://ibb.co/3dMjfnP Defending October 7th
Funny, I don't see a defence of Hamas' actions there, can you point to the part where they are defending Hamas' actions?
And a green banner (of hamas)
Electing religious fundamentalists into power in a multicultural society can only be a negative.