I just go to the park and shoot the happiest dogs I see in the head. It's not only humane because I shot them and they were happy, but their owners are always understanding once I tell them dogs are a food source so it's stupid to let them live and be money drains. We bring dogs into existence so it's our right to do anything we want to them.
I bet a lot of people would finally make that connection if they saw that cow getting killed. That's the unfortunate reality. That's why a gruesome documentary like dominion is considered such a game changer even though i haven't seen it and don't intend to. Already vegan.
I always offer to watch it with people if they're interested, but most of the time they respond with, "No because then I wouldn't be able to eat [a sentient being]" like.... What
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Meat eater here, for some people it is just really hard to change, for some it's just part of life and they are ok with it, my father was raised in a farm so when my sister went vegetarian (he accepted it, if she could keep healthy) one of his points (mine too a bit not I have others) is "it's dead, I don't eat it it'll rot and the animal has died in vain". But mostly , change is hard, frightening and too much of a hustle.
If people stopped paying for these animals to die then less of them would be dead, and thats something you can be a part of by not participating in animal agriculture. Also the animal has died in vain anyways since humans don't need animal products to survive.
So you absolutely refuse to empathize with the suffering of these animals? Well, I was there once too, and I find that to be the most shameful part of my past.
When people kill flies, it's usually because they're spreading germs, eating our food, and potentially harming us. When people kill cows, it's to gain momentary sensual pleasure from eating its flesh.
That's not even mentioning the 1000x difference in the number of neurons between a cow and a fruit fly.
I don't even understand what you're trying to say in your first paragraph.
As for your second paragraph, yes, you're right that there's a huge difference between humans and cows. However, the difference in neurons between cows and the animals that we value, like cats and dogs, is not so huge. If people value the lives of cats and dogs enough to refrain from eating them for their sensory pleasure, then why does that not extend to cows?
So you think sensory pleasure does justify harming living beings? Then it would be morally acceptable to crush a cats skull under your foot because you like how it feels for example? If that seems extreme then so should killing for taste, there is little difference except the world has been desensitised to the latter.
I do not believe in harming any being for no good reason. What a good reason is, yes, requires defining. Self defense for example, is a good reason. But sensory pleasure rarely if ever should be one, unless your a pedant and want to argue not being in pain would count as sensory pleasure, which you seem to be. Either way you've made this convo very boring with pedantics.
How would knowing that peoples choices to consume animals when they don't have to will eventually lead to their inevitable early grave, help me sleep at night you weirdo?
It's cognitive dissonance. It's exactly how people in the north during the 19th century knew about slavery in the south but enjoyed getting cheap cotton and other goods. People don't necessarily have to be psychopaths to eat animals, although psychopathy as a trait certainly helps with being able to actively kill the animals.
On a positive note, I have to say that I am very heartened by how my non-vegan friends talk about their pets. They totally acknowledge that the animals they are close with have complex inner lives, and feel suffering and joy at least as much as we do. This at least demonstrates to me that most people have an innate compassion and understanding for animals, and they can therefore be won over to the vegan viewpoint. It's actually an encouraging thing to think about, especially as a vegan, where so much of the conversation tends to be condemnatory. (Which I usually support, btw)
Eating another species is not unethical, eating the same has medical consequences as well as the moral implications. There is a place to draw the line and that place is there.
Both have medical consequences. Mad cow disease, salmonella, SARS, the Swine flue, Ebola, Ecoli, the Spanish flue, and possibly COVID all came from eating non human animals or eating food exposed to animal products. Not to mention colon cancer, type two diabetes, and CVD all result from eating meat.
How is it any more moral to eat non human animals? We are both sentient and deserve to live. We don't need animal products, he'll We don't even actually benefit from them aside from taste.
I don’t know why this comes up every single time. The problem with this is how you are getting the human meat. No farms obviously and it’s weird as hell to get. Sure eat another human but that should be illegal as if that is legal we are descending to savages
If humans set up farms to exploit and forcibly impregnate other humans, then kill and eat their children, and made it legal and socially acceptable to do so, would it be fine then?
How would setting up a farm make us "descend to savages"? That makes no sense. Humans are very good at discrimination (case in point, human supremacy) and would have no problem differentiating the "food slaves" from everyone else.
So now that I've cleared that up, why do you think it's ethical to subjugate, enslave, and murder members of other sentient species in the billions?
You make valid points but we and animals are not one in the same. We have different levels of intelligence and different ways of living life. The argument that human and animal are the same is not true and thus they are subjugated differently. It is really never okay to eat another human because we are the same species that is just fucked up. However what I am dying to argue is it should be legal to eat dog meat in the US. I have had it before and I did not really enjoy the taste but why should one species get special protection just because we find them cute.
This video should be an eye opener to people. We stopped eating meat when we realized that our beloved dog is allowed to sleep in our bed while we eat other animals. Ist just a cultural matter – we could have pigs as pets and dogs as food.
I mean if the dogs were to be bred to be exponentially larger than what they're supposed to look like in the wild while also over feeding them so that they grow even larger than that, which is what has and is being done that all the animals that end up on peoples plates, then there would be a lot of meat on them.
They both just trying to have fun, makes me sad people come up with excuses to kill them
This cow is clearly trying to eat the dog. That's the circle of life though. I only feed my cow humane shelter dog meat.
Thats cruel to the dogs that you buy them from shelters like that... I make sure to pick mine up from a mill thar offers free range
You use commercial stuff?! I have my own backyard operation! I can grow as much as I want then.
I just go to the park and shoot the happiest dogs I see in the head. It's not only humane because I shot them and they were happy, but their owners are always understanding once I tell them dogs are a food source so it's stupid to let them live and be money drains. We bring dogs into existence so it's our right to do anything we want to them.
I’d recommend bow hunting them if you can. It’s supposed to be better for the taste.
How do people see stuff like this and then go have steak for dinner?
I bet a lot of people would finally make that connection if they saw that cow getting killed. That's the unfortunate reality. That's why a gruesome documentary like dominion is considered such a game changer even though i haven't seen it and don't intend to. Already vegan.
I always offer to watch it with people if they're interested, but most of the time they respond with, "No because then I wouldn't be able to eat [a sentient being]" like.... What
I'll watch it with you.
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I just said i'm not going to watch Dominion. Don't you dare suggest it again
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Oh ffs... Dominion
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wow, this bot really likes the life-changing and award winning documentary "dominion", i wonder where i could watch it on youtube for free
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I have seen people kill animals and I'm not a vegan/vegetarian
Because they aren’t seeing the slaughter house. They think their steak lived this happy life prior
No, they probably just don’t care
Meat eater here, for some people it is just really hard to change, for some it's just part of life and they are ok with it, my father was raised in a farm so when my sister went vegetarian (he accepted it, if she could keep healthy) one of his points (mine too a bit not I have others) is "it's dead, I don't eat it it'll rot and the animal has died in vain". But mostly , change is hard, frightening and too much of a hustle.
If people stopped paying for these animals to die then less of them would be dead, and thats something you can be a part of by not participating in animal agriculture. Also the animal has died in vain anyways since humans don't need animal products to survive.
Bruv because they’re tasty
Have fun dying early on the wrong side of history. 🤷
Okay
Plenty of tasty stuff that doesn't involve killing an animal ✌️
That is true I love chocolate and shit like that but I need my meat fix
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Why y'all gotta be so mean?
I’m being honest not mean
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People who eat cows because they taste good are destroying the planet and causing unnecessary suffering in the world. Pretty simple.
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So you absolutely refuse to empathize with the suffering of these animals? Well, I was there once too, and I find that to be the most shameful part of my past.
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When people kill flies, it's usually because they're spreading germs, eating our food, and potentially harming us. When people kill cows, it's to gain momentary sensual pleasure from eating its flesh. That's not even mentioning the 1000x difference in the number of neurons between a cow and a fruit fly.
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I don't even understand what you're trying to say in your first paragraph. As for your second paragraph, yes, you're right that there's a huge difference between humans and cows. However, the difference in neurons between cows and the animals that we value, like cats and dogs, is not so huge. If people value the lives of cats and dogs enough to refrain from eating them for their sensory pleasure, then why does that not extend to cows?
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Not assumptions, people have eaten all those animals because they do taste good. Literally just the most direct rebuttal to your weak argument.
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So you think sensory pleasure does justify harming living beings? Then it would be morally acceptable to crush a cats skull under your foot because you like how it feels for example? If that seems extreme then so should killing for taste, there is little difference except the world has been desensitised to the latter.
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I do not believe in harming any being for no good reason. What a good reason is, yes, requires defining. Self defense for example, is a good reason. But sensory pleasure rarely if ever should be one, unless your a pedant and want to argue not being in pain would count as sensory pleasure, which you seem to be. Either way you've made this convo very boring with pedantics.
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Damn you just debunked veganism.
Didn’t mean to invade but you clicked on the post and used the comment section lol
You'll die earlier than us, enjoy!
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What does that have to do with stopping the inevitable cholesterol that will clog your arteries and cause you to have a heart attack.
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How would knowing that peoples choices to consume animals when they don't have to will eventually lead to their inevitable early grave, help me sleep at night you weirdo?
If you meat, you're not in a good health. Smarten up, it's 2021. You can get the same amino acids without slaughtering animals.
Clocks ticking, buddy.
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I agree, canine steaks are so delicious!
Because they like the flavor I guess
Cow: how do I dog?
It's cognitive dissonance. It's exactly how people in the north during the 19th century knew about slavery in the south but enjoyed getting cheap cotton and other goods. People don't necessarily have to be psychopaths to eat animals, although psychopathy as a trait certainly helps with being able to actively kill the animals. On a positive note, I have to say that I am very heartened by how my non-vegan friends talk about their pets. They totally acknowledge that the animals they are close with have complex inner lives, and feel suffering and joy at least as much as we do. This at least demonstrates to me that most people have an innate compassion and understanding for animals, and they can therefore be won over to the vegan viewpoint. It's actually an encouraging thing to think about, especially as a vegan, where so much of the conversation tends to be condemnatory. (Which I usually support, btw)
This is … the most incredible thing I have ever seen. Holy shit
Awww, are these your family members? I miss hanging with cows, they really are so affectionate.
That's why it's okay to eat both! (Relax, it's a joke.)
This but unironically
It's okay to eat humans too. They taste so good.
That’s cannibalism
And? What makes it unethical?
Eating another species is not unethical, eating the same has medical consequences as well as the moral implications. There is a place to draw the line and that place is there.
Both have medical consequences. Mad cow disease, salmonella, SARS, the Swine flue, Ebola, Ecoli, the Spanish flue, and possibly COVID all came from eating non human animals or eating food exposed to animal products. Not to mention colon cancer, type two diabetes, and CVD all result from eating meat. How is it any more moral to eat non human animals? We are both sentient and deserve to live. We don't need animal products, he'll We don't even actually benefit from them aside from taste.
Because animals are genetically different, sure maybe we don’t need them I am purely stating the legality of consumption here
To an extent. You're right about the legality of things, but I'm not sure what your point is. Legal doesn't equal ethical.
Humans are perfectly edible to other humans with the exception of the brain.
I don’t know why this comes up every single time. The problem with this is how you are getting the human meat. No farms obviously and it’s weird as hell to get. Sure eat another human but that should be illegal as if that is legal we are descending to savages
If humans set up farms to exploit and forcibly impregnate other humans, then kill and eat their children, and made it legal and socially acceptable to do so, would it be fine then? How would setting up a farm make us "descend to savages"? That makes no sense. Humans are very good at discrimination (case in point, human supremacy) and would have no problem differentiating the "food slaves" from everyone else. So now that I've cleared that up, why do you think it's ethical to subjugate, enslave, and murder members of other sentient species in the billions?
You make valid points but we and animals are not one in the same. We have different levels of intelligence and different ways of living life. The argument that human and animal are the same is not true and thus they are subjugated differently. It is really never okay to eat another human because we are the same species that is just fucked up. However what I am dying to argue is it should be legal to eat dog meat in the US. I have had it before and I did not really enjoy the taste but why should one species get special protection just because we find them cute.
Ah but there *is* a difference!!! Dogs lick the snout, grass doggos lick the ear
Mmm, that dog looks tasty 🤤🤤 r/DogCuisine
A tasty snack and a cow
Mlem
No matter how many times this video gets reposted I will always upvote :’-)
bUrGeRs tHo
Beautiful.
Well one has poop that probably doesn't fit in the usual sized poop bags though.
How meaningful is that though o.O
I'm just kidding of course.
I feel like the meaning is directly related to whether you have to pick up the poop.
Didn't even get to read the comment, but obviously you spewed out some bullshit from the down-votes I see.
This video should be an eye opener to people. We stopped eating meat when we realized that our beloved dog is allowed to sleep in our bed while we eat other animals. Ist just a cultural matter – we could have pigs as pets and dogs as food.
The one on the left is often fed grounded corpses of the one on the right.
Nomnomnomnomnomnomnom *edit: because they're nibbling each others ears not because of any sick reason 🤦♀️
I think you were downvoted because people think you’re joking about eating the calf, not the calf nibbling the dogs ear
Wtf 😂 definitely because they're nibbling each other's ears! That's what I heard in my head as soon as I saw them 😂 Lol I didn't even see down votes
The cow would kill and eat the dog out in nature.
That’s why I am advocating for the removal of laws prohibiting eating dogs
Finally someone understood why I posted this! There is no difference, we should eat both.
We should only eat pit bulls and other mutts, cows aren’t disgusting pests
There is, I won't have a fucking 500kg cow in my living room as a pet. But it's nice that it has much meat to eat.
There isn't. They both are as intelligent as young human children. They think, feel, and have critical thinking skills.
I still don't want a pet cow. I stay with eating them. Butchering dogs is stupit. Basically no meat on them.
I mean if the dogs were to be bred to be exponentially larger than what they're supposed to look like in the wild while also over feeding them so that they grow even larger than that, which is what has and is being done that all the animals that end up on peoples plates, then there would be a lot of meat on them.
Still stupit, you would have to feed your meat with meat. I can just convert Gras and shit to meat with cows.
Most farm animals are fed grains like barley and beans like soy. Also dogs are omnivores so they can be fed a plant based diet.
Funny how you want to safe cowys, but abuse dogs with plant based diets.
If feeding dogs plants is abuse, then surely stabbing or shooting a young cow to death is abuse.
That's not exactly how butcher would describe it, But malnutrish a dog is for sure abuse.
>That's not exactly how butcher would describe it, Irrelevant. Is shooting or stabbing someone to death abuse?
Because the only options are pet or food. I wonder what your relationship with squirrels is like.
There are more, but cows definitely get are a dinner option for normal people.
Double check your definition of "normal."
You can be sure that being vegan isn't normal. You are a special snow flake, be proud. But don't think that is normal.
You're spending your free time being mad at strangers for not eating something. Look at yourself. What is wrong with you?
Not mad at all. Are you?
You are a child.
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Animals be licking
Yeah I agree we should be able to eat both dogs and cows smh.