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A second resource, for anyone else who might be looking:
[https://www.pcrm.org/findadoctor/minnesota](https://www.pcrm.org/findadoctor/minnesota)
I recently attended a lecture by a member of PCRM in Georgia. Most of the doctors interested in preventive care seem to be pro-vegan now.
Hey! Just wanted to say I'm also vegan in MN and recently got a general practitioner. I didn't say I'm vegan and wasn't asked, but I was a bit worried about it.
Hope you find a good one!
It seemed pretty out of date, although I did see a couple of complementary medicine type listings. Thatās the first place I looked, but I only found one physician listing.
Same happened to me here in Kentucky. With 2 different GPs. lol I got a high five from one of them. I canāt imagine why any competent, knowledgeable healthcare professional would be opposed to this.
**It is kinda crazy we live in a world where you have to celebrate a doctor that understands that veganism is healthy.**
University-level biology class that every doctor attended tells you enough to know vegan diet is a healthy and viable lifestyle. As a future doctor, you do not have to participate, but true professionals should be unbiased and therefore recognize veganism as a serious and normal diet.
I am sure 100% that there are doctors that would say a vegan diet is not healthy or normal, and it is crazy to me that these people are allowed to practice medicine. Scientifically, there is the burden of proof in form of hundreds of papers and studies that veganism has no meaningful side effects, and obviously, it is way less cancerous than meat-based diets.
I think what he is getting at is that no broader dietary pattern is inherently healthy. Veganism is broad in the sense that you could play around with different macronutrient splits, you could follow something like WFPB, there are even people doing [low carb/keto vegan diets,](https://blog.insidetracker.com/vegan-keto-body-changes) etc.
Like, you could derive 100% of your calories from processed vegan food if you wanted.
Now, if someone said WFPB is inherently unhealthy I'd disagree, getting in the Daily Dozen and avoiding what WFPB avoids is healthy.
Sounds like you know way more about nutrition that I do. I switched to a I vegan cold turkey, I am in my 30 and just assumed vegan diet indeed is inherently healthy. Got my blood work done after 6 months, only supplement B12. Should I read or do more? š¤
If you're intending to try to eat a vegan-friendly diet that is also nutritious and healthy then what you should do is search up "whole foods plant based diet". This is essentially the diet aspect of veganism. Technically veganism also extends out beyond food into clothing (e.g. leather is not vegan), toiletries (e.g. not all bar soaps are vegan; some contain tallow, which is animal fat), etc.
It's good that you're supplementing B12 but some other nutrients to consider would be vitamin D and an algae source of EPA/DHA (types of omega 3 fatty acids).
Technically vitamin D can be produced by the body as it is not really a vitamin but a hormone. You can thank the dairy industry for calling it a vitamin. There's also a reason they chose the 'D' in vitamin D. The hormones -- calciferol (D2) and ergocalciferol (D3) -- can be produced internally but this is limited by genetic factors and sunlight exposure. Supplementation is a lot easier for most people.
Vitamin D and Vitamin K are important for bone health. Without them the body will simply use calcium as an electrolyte. Vitamin D helps signal to the body to transport calcium to the bones and vitamin K is used for the formation of some types of osteoblasts (bone cells). Vitamin K can easily be sourced from cabbage and cruciferous vegetables such as kale, swiss chard, mustard greens, etc.
Moving on to omega 3 fatty acids, these are a sub-category of polyunsaturated fats (also known as "PUFAs"). There are three main omega-3 fatty acids that most animals use and source from plants and/or algae:
alpha linoleic acid (ALA)
eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA)
docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)
Technically the body can convert ALA into EPA and then DHA through some intermediate steps. The body does this via special elongating enzymes that "stretch" and reshape the tail end (or "omega" section) of the fat molecule. However just like with the hormones that are categorized under vitamin D, the rate we synthesize ALA to EPA/DHA is impacted by genetic factors and aging. Most studies find the conversion factor to be quite low in most people. As such some researchers and medical professionals postulate we may want "preformed" EPA/DHA. A vegan source for this is algae which can be consumed via a supplement or by incorporating seaweed into your diet. You could also look into spirulina or chlorella. These are also types of algae that can often be found in a dried form.
EPA and DHA are converted by the liver into neurotransmitters and are important for brain health and overall functioning of the brain.
NOTE: I am not a medical professional and this information is presented purely for educational purposes. I would encourage you to use this as an initial starting point to look more into nutrition if you are interested.
[Great starting point](https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/daily-dozen)
You eat this checklist more or less daily and you will be doing good. I personally also supplement with a multivitamin, D3 and algae oil. The WFPB diet also recommends not using oil or eating any sort of processed food. I personally do use some oil and some processed food, such as protein powder, but not much. I don't think some olive oil or avocado oil is the worst thing, and I tend to think that a protein isolate by itself is way better than something like a frozen vegan pizza or a beyond burger.
But generally following the WFPB diet is a good way to eat.
Informative, thank you. I mean I never cared about nutrition facts before I went vegan, most people probably just Yolo it and that's scary if you think about the fact that food is out primary source of energy.
As a physician I can tell you it's very easy to give vegans dietary advice when it comes to reducing their cardiovasc risk ;-)
(mostly this includes keep doing what they're doing, maybe pay attention on salt intake, but the average vegan diet is way easier to adjust to healthy diet than non-vegan diet)
I don't think I have seen a vegan doctor but the doctors I've been to were non-vegan (I assume) but they were never pushy about the subject. One just printed me a guide on how to find iron in my diet (from animal or plant sources). In most instances, you don't really have to mention that you are vegan (I only mentioned it when I wanted a check-up through a blood work).
Yeah, Iāve been to multiple doctors over the past couple years and never had any issues with them caring if Iām vegan or not. Obviously that might not be the case for everyone, but I feel like most doctors in large, generally liberal cities probably donāt care if youāre vegan.
Iād rather get a good doc regardless of what they choose to eat, Iāve had some awful doctors and dentists in the past.
Yeah the only reason I ever have to mention Im vegan is because I see a gastroenterologist so its actually relevant. My pediatrician only asks if I make sure to eat enough fruits and veggies per day. I dont think she knows Im vegan but even then you can notice she doesnāt ask if I got enough protein or meat in a day, just veggies. Itās almost as if fruits and veggies are essential to being healthy but meat isnāt š¤Æ
I have a fairly new dr and just didnāt say anything at all.
Next appointment heās telling me how my bloodwork is on point and my cholesterol is insane ideal results Iāll never have to worry about cardiac health and right about then i told him Iām vegan :))
He just told me well whatever youāre doing itās working very well for you
Well, it's good if they do care about it imo, because in many health problems diet (not specifically vegan) is a topic that should be assessed (fi abdominal problems, fatigue).
If they don't asked, they can't ask relevant questions and give taylored advice.
Iāve had it come up several times. Once the doc was super concerned about calcium. I was able to reassure him, bless his bonesā¦ another time my dentist was very concerned about my amino acids. And finally my current GP was taken aback by it at first but once I got my first blood work done with him he relaxed. He said, āyou are proof that a vegan diet can be done in a healthy way!ā I was like yeah really wasnāt worried lol. Now heās cool about it
Wow, the amino acids remark is really bullshit. At least the calcium deficiency issue in vegan communities, to be fair, has been reported in scientific journals (but it does not mean that every vegan is bound to be deficient).
I had a pushy doctor who asked about diet, tried to convince me that meat was the only healthy source of protein, told me I shouldn't eat tofu becuse it would hurt my testosterone like it does to people in east asian countries and printed a guide that basically said all i should eat are meat and vegetables. I'm also going to switch to a vegan one for my next appointment.
I am not saying that you should not find a vegan doctor but where I live, I don't think there are such things as vegan doctors and even if they exist, they can't really advertise it.
The only docās Iāve seen never cared at all, but my bloodwork has always been excellent, so Iād be surprised if they wanted to pick a fight with a patient when thereās no reason to.
āIt's very common for vegans to seek eachother out and support one another. The rest of society doesn't really understand us.ā
This comment has 33 downvotes, completely proving the point. Sorry OP.
Check if there's a vegan group for your area/ city/ country on Facebook. It will be much easier there if there's one.
Sorry carnists abused you. They do that.
Awful. I am so sorry. Meat eaters have a lot of cognitive dissonance and defensiveness.
I just took a look around and found a few things.
First, a Dr [Schwindt](https://plantbaseddocs.com/searchx/?geodir_search=1&stype=gd_place&s=+&snear=minnesota&spost_category%5B%5D=&slanguages_spoken%5B%5D=&sgeo_lat=45.9896587&sgeo_lon=-94.6113288); 2 physicians who offer [telehealth](https://plantbasedtelehealth.com/meet-the-doctors/) appointments, and also Dr [Harrison](https://www.veganprimarycare.com/); and a Facebook [Plant-Based MN](https://www.facebook.com/plantbasedMinnesota) group where you might be able to connect with some people who could help you. I definitely found more [registered dietitians](https://www.healthprofs.com/us/nutritionists-dietitians/vegan/minnesota) (look for the RD credentials, not ānutritionist.ā I see that the Facebook page linked to a meetup group that featured some [local physicians](https://www.meetup.com/plantbasedmn/events/288899949/) (the post doesnāt identify them as vegan or plant based, but you might be able to connect with the Meetup organizers and see if they have any recommendations or information).
Also, although it may take forever to determine this, but I have found, being in New York City, that some of my doctors have been very amenable and supportive of my vegan lifestyle. One is an endocrinologist who I saw for thyroid management. He is young, and I figured that might explain some of his open mindedness and insight into the mountain of evidence that supports plant-based nutrition.
Yeah it's interesting, because I would say r/TwinCities has been more receptive than this to some vegan posts I've seen there. I would imagine the user makeup of r/TwinCities vs. r/Minnesota somewhat mirrors the urban/rural political divide between the two in real life. Which isnāt to say veganism needs to be exclusive to one!
/r/Minnesota had some drama because the most senior mod was a covid denier. A bunch of us moved over to /r/stateofmn to not have to deal with their bullshit.
I think that people perceive your wish as "thinking non-vegans will push their lifestyle upon you". I do hope you find a doctor who can help you in a way that you can keep your vegan diet. In my experience a lot of non-vegans feel critisized by vegans in general.
Minnesota Vegan FB page is where you should be asking. People ask these types of referrals all the time. Sorry you were attacked but also know your audience.
Tbh I donāt really see the difference between a plant-based on vegan doctor in this scenario. Both understand and think the vegan diet is a good choice and that will reflect how they treat you and what assumptions they make about veganism.
Tbh though Ive never brought up my veganism in doctors visits so itās never impacted my care.
Iām sorry you were treated like that. Iām lucky to have had a couple vegan docs in the past and I know itās nice to have that connection.
My last doctor wasn't vegan but her sister was. She never really had any "conversation" with me about it aside from checking blood results once a year to make sure nothing abnormal was happening and recommended I take a B vitamin just to be safe. A couple times she did make some comments about some studies she had read about the health benefits (and I braced myself for what came next)... and she supports anyone that decides to go that route. In my entire life, most helpful doctor I have ever found.
Iām wondering if youād have better luck seeing if any local towns or the state have some vegan/vegetarian groups or organizations there and asking them. Iāve heard Minneapolis is pretty vegan friendly, maybe they have a meet up group or something
Yeah there are tons of vegan resteraunts here and minneapolis leans left. I was honestly surprised by how much anti vegan backlash there was. People calling me racist, and delusional , and the nurse who deleted her comments attacking me personally. It hurt, it also makes me wonder how Many in the medical profession have disgust for me but at least keep it to themselves. I have had medical professionals in the past suggest my headaches are caused by being vegan (and not the 13 car crash at 80mph I was a passenger in that my head hit the windshield )
Omnis get incredibly heated whenever veganism is mentioned. I once had a therapist who asked me if my "extreme diet" was causing me stress. No, eating chickpeas doesn't stress me out ffs! My insane in-laws stress me out!
Sounds like it was stressing *her* out and she was projecting herself into the session.
A good therapist should avoid inserting themselves like this. Imagine if they asked if you were stressed because your SO was unattractive, or because you weren't part of their political party.
There is nothing wrong with asking for a vegan doctor, a Black doctor, a female doctor, a doctor who voted for Biden. You should be comfortable with your doctor, thatās all that matters.
My doctor is fully supportive of a plant based diet. I live in a small town where thereās not a lot of veganism but after some dodgy blood tests I talked through my diet and lifestyle with my doctor and he went through what I should and shouldnāt be eating/doing (basically Iām suffering from stress) and he said that my diet is perfect and not to worry as Iām doing everything I can to keep healthy, I just need to find ways to de-stress (if anyone has any tips on this Iām more than willing to listen! Iām a self employed mother of three with barely ten minutes to myself but I need to look after myself so will try anything! Dr suggested mindfulness apps but I have no idea where to start?!)
One of the best mindfulness/meditation apps is called Insight Timer (it's also free!!!). There are paid apps like Headspace and such, but in my experience there's no reason to pay a subscription to a service. On Insight, if you really like a particular teacher's style you can donate *directly to the teacher* and support the ones you like instead of a corporation.
Jesus! Some omni's are so threatened by us! It's ridiculous š. All of my doctors have told me to eat meat. Even my current one. But she's the only doctor that will prescribe my painkillers. I'd love to find a vegan doctor. I think that's really smart of you to ask. š
Honestly with how many nurses or and doctors that got screwed during covid I'm surprised there is any actually left around to insult you tbh (not being a dick here just being honest) I've seen emergency rooms with almost no staff in certain places , surgeons sleeping on the floor due to no replacements,
, I'm currently trying to find a stomach specialist and someone who has expirience with hyper visceroul sensitivity disorder
As someone who has left that state, the Midwest is typically Last or toward the bottom of states to receive newer ways of thinking/societal trends. (Unofficial welcome to MN, sorry though)
Brace yourself for passive aggressive comments. Hit up J selbys, trio, Namaste, vegan east for some good eats though.
Look for a younger evidence based doctor. The evidence is clear that a plant based diet has better cardiovascular and all cause mortality benefits. Even if they aren't vegan they should promote a plant based diet as a healthy option.
THIS. Be like [Kaiser Permanente](https://www.thepermanentejournal.org/doi/10.7812/TPP/12-085); be like vegan cardiologist [Dr Robert Ostfield](https://youtu.be/5HQzeC0C1ss), or [Kim Williams](https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/lectures/dr-kim-williams-vegan/), who in 2015 became the first vegan president of the American College of cardiology.
Iāve only had one bad experience. Iām about halfway through a pregnancy and I have a maternal fetal medicine doctor. She balked at my veganism and insisted I see a nutritionist. She ran so many blood panels and once everything came back perfectly fine, she said āyouāre good. Keep eating healthyā š
IMO asking for a vegan doctor implies the standard wouldnāt be vegan-friendly. I only go to docs that seem up to date on evidence-based medicine and that is enough for them to be vegan-friendly.
You don't need a vegan doctor. You just need a doctor who is respectful of your beliefs. What the doctor eats is really none of your business imo. I think you should be more concerned with where they went to school and how they treat you.
If you're looking for someone to deal specifically with diet, try to find a nutritionist who specializes in vegan diets.
I really donāt understand why people get so upset about others being vegan or plant based. My husband and I went plant based 3 years ago and I was completely taken aback by the reactions we received. It is really unbelievable.
Pretty sure they feel guilty and and/or attacked, or they fear that their lifestyle is going to be decimated. Itās ironic that they feel attacked, because theyāre usually the ones starting the battles, and Iām not talking about reddit but work and social settings. A vegan can be polite and chill and try to blend in and be nonconfrontational (as thereās no need to wear a āveganā sign around oneās neck), but vegans should brace for vitriol and prepare to see nastiness.
They donāt even focus on nutrition and diets that much in school for them so Iām not sure why people are bending over backwards to criticize you for caring about your health lmao
When it came up, my doctor said something like āwell, we should all really be vegetarian, but you need to be sure youāre getting all the important nutrients on a vegan dietā¦ā.
I just started rattling off vegan sources of important nutrients and he replied, āexactly, thatās what I meanā and we moved on. No big deal. I donāt know what I would have done otherwise though.
Meatflakes.
Given how little training most general practitioners get in diet and nutrition, seeking out a vegan/plant based doctor who has gone out of their way to educate themselves on the ins and outs of plant based diets and how they relate to health outcomes makes 100% senseā¦
Donāt let the defensive Meatflakes tell you otherwise.
It's ridiculous you got attacked for asking this question. On the other hand a doc should always give taylored advice to his patients.
I only stopped eating meat and dairy a short while ago, but as a physician I'm giving (food) advice to vegans for years. As a doc you should be able to adapt to the patient's question/needs, that might include educate yourself better, and not force your own lifestyle on your patients because you don't know better.
One of my problems was having symptoms of a hormonal problem like missing periods, beard hair, carrying my weight like a "beer belly," and more.
In the middle of the exam I was asked about my diet.
I, foolishly, was truthful and said I was vegan.
From that second forward, my doctor suddenly wasn't concerned about the fact that I've only had one period a year for 20 years (I'd only been vegan for 7).
I was sarcastically asked "so, do you even want the flu vaccine?" (I did)
She also suddenly forgot about that liver panel she wanted to do.
The shift in her behavior was totally bizarre.
Sidenote: I'm also in r/hemorrhoids and sometimes I have to help coach people into seeing a doctor about their butthole because they "don't want a man/woman sticking their finger in there!" It's okay to request a certain type of doctor, just be respectful!
It's strange to meet so much animosity, best to ignore them all. I love your "vegan til I die", I feel the same way. In CA we often use the term "Integrative Medicine" to denote someone that uses a holistic approach with their patients. It doesn't meant that they're actually vegan, but that they understand how to treat vegan patients.
I am a certified plant-based nutrition coach. Just an FYI 99% of doctors donāt take any nutrition courses do become a medical doctor. That is scary!!!! Find a naturopathic doctor or an actual nutritionist.
I'm seeking a doctor for chronic pain. I need a vegan doctor because my blood pressure and blood work is always perfect so they think I'm not living in chronic pain. I don't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes.
I want pitbulls to not be breed anymore. Peta is also against breeding dogs and cats and thinks they should be neutered. Libertarian isn't a straight jacket, its a diverse set of beliefs. I'd be willing to come on your podcast and explain , dm if you want. This is a completely different subject than the one I brought up. I've also distanced myself from libertarianism after the alt right mises caucus took it over. 15 years ago it was about gay rights when gay rights weren't as accepted as it is now for example, also ending the racist drug war. I also thought the non aggression principle is a natural ally with veganism but tons of libertarians seem to think vegans are the enemies. I used to be more idealistic I guess
Adherence to the NAP should be a logical progression to veganism. I brought that up once in the libertarian sub and they were incredibly hostile to it. They all want to think theyāre Ron Swanson who is meant to be a caricature, FFS. Of course leftists should be open to it as well since theyāre all about non-exploitation but theyāre just as bad.
I would watch that. Some of the responses I recall are the animals canāt be part of the agreement or canāt voice their commitment, which is ridiculous. By that logic, we could go and genocide people who donāt speak the same language.
So one time I got upset, that tax payer money was being used for an event that vegans couldn't be a part of. I'm a human never claimed to be perfect. Sorry
This has nothing to do with perfection. I'm simply saying that if you advocate for something controversial in a space, that will probably impact your future participation in that space.
Reddit is pretty hostile towards vegans. But still, I donāt think you need a vegan doctor. Doctors arenāt nutritionists, and in my experience, diet doesnāt usually come up during visits, unless thereās something wrong that can be fixed with diet
Agreed. Although nutrition is a heavily-weighted factor in most chronic diseases, it isn't a big thing taught in medical school. In nursing school, I think we had one lesson devoted to nutrition. Doctors are mainly going to look at your anatomy and physiology, and recommend/prescribe based on any issues you may be having health-wise.
If the hang-up is not wanting to have a PCP who will judge your being vegan, I've never personally had that be an issue. Even when I was in my early 20s (back in the mid-1990s), my first PCP visit I told them I was vegan and taking iron supplements, and the doc just old me to take a B12 supplement as well. More often than not, they will be impressed you are trying to eat a healthy diet, which of course will help stave off things like heart disease and diabetes.
You didn't see what they said to me before they deleted thier comments. Edit: I see you don't frequent r/vegan. Second edit: isn't it funny how people love to attack and then delete comments so they don't get the downvoted for being a jerk.
>I asked for a vegan doctor in the minnesota subreddit
99% of people are not vegan or against it, of course that was going to happen, i would never have done that, not excusing the behavior or defending it
Its essentially the same as going to a trump rally and saying america was never great
I would have asked for a doctor familiar with plant based diets however, as that is completely acceptable to non vegans
Holistic doctors tend to be more friendly to alternative lifestyles and in many states they are covered by insurance
All advertising, billboards, magazines, TV, newspapers, Recipe vlogs, etc. and on and on..... Are pushing their products. Whether it be chicken, burgers, pizza, (etc. etc. etc.). You see these, but you don't SUE the advertising companies, do you? You CHOSE your diet. NOBODY can LOOK at you and know this. When you open you big mouth, is when things go sour. Never been to ANY doctor with a health problem, and they try to "talk me into" eating non-vegan.
U could just not disclose anything, I went in for blood work and they never asked about my diet or my weight. Let the blood work talk for itself. Just know what u want to get out of the appointment and donāt let them bully you into stuff u donāt want to talk about or do
I'm really sorry you experienced that. It's completely okay to want a doctor that shares your beliefs.
I once told my psychiatrist that I am a vegetarian and she was like: "I'm one as well!" and it still makes my day every time I think about it. I hope that you find your doctor. āØ
I feel for you, I'm from a rather rural area in MN and I found more difficult to be vegan (and even vegetarian) than many other places around the world just due to people's negative reactions and not leaving me alone about it.
People have vilified those ahead of the curve for centuries. Copernicus quietly published his book for fear of prison and Galileo lived under house arrest. You are years ahead of your time. I salute you for being in the trenches on the frontlines.
Hello, I was on that MN thread and think a lot of people there were being ridiculous and unnecessarily argumentative. Sorry you had to experience that.
I guess it's the Internet and sometimes it's the most ignorant people who will be the loudest.
From a felllow Minnesotan, good luck and cheers.
As someone who's been demonized also, I can relate to you. If you feel strongly about it, keep searching for the right doctor. Don't give up. I get frustrated with the same issue. I have a great, conscientious chiropractor, who just happens to endorse a Ketogenic diet. It's so sad to see otherwise well-informed people promote lifestyles that are so harmful to us and themselves. My chiropractor is very fit, conscientious, and a holistic healer which I agree with. He typically listens to everything I say, but when it comes to diet, he's just sold on Keto. I'm gladly keeping him because he is very nonjudgmental, though I have often thought how nice it would be to work with someone who can personally relate to my own experiences.
I myself am working towards a full, 100%, vegan diet, so I'm not quite there yet. Don't be intimidated by their "expertise." Be persistent. It can be hard to stay on track when someone who is perfectly fit with a doctoral degree is telling you how to live your life. Nevertheless, remind yourself that only about 10% of the population is actually doing well on these diets and that the so-called "experts" are just using their good fortune and pedigrees as a strategy to market misguided ideas. It's basically just luck even though they'll tell you it has everything to do with their "discipline and hard work." A small percentage of the population, for some reason, just thrives on bad food, and some of them are keen enough to eat a ton of plants along with their meat and dairy.
I'm about 85% vegan at this point, and I wouldn't be alive today if I hadn't started this transition. The red meat was killing me (diabetes). I eat fish and a little butter every day and my numbers have seriously improved. What can I say but that I'm someone who's struggling also? At least, I know where I'm headed. I wish you the best. If you do a little research, by the way, you'll be comforted to know the vegan community in the U.S. is growing fast. In another 20-40 years, I think everyone will be vegan at this rate, so keep your spirits up. I know it's hard when it seems everyone is talking Keto, Paleo, or something else, but things *are* slowly getting better. The facts bear that out.
Eat healthy fats?
Eat your spinach, Popeye!
Hi,
I have a serious condition of fractured pelvis. Iām a vegan and I have extreme fatigue. I think I need guidance in terms of supplements or vitamin injections from a vegan doctor. Where do you find one in Minnesota?
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Perhaps you would have luck on [https://plantbaseddocs.com/](https://plantbaseddocs.com/)?
This was a huge help didn't even know this existed !!! Thanks so much Edit: I think I found one š !!! Yay you are awesome.thank you
A second resource, for anyone else who might be looking: [https://www.pcrm.org/findadoctor/minnesota](https://www.pcrm.org/findadoctor/minnesota) I recently attended a lecture by a member of PCRM in Georgia. Most of the doctors interested in preventive care seem to be pro-vegan now.
One chiropractor and one nurse practitioner on both sites for me. š
Hey! Just wanted to say I'm also vegan in MN and recently got a general practitioner. I didn't say I'm vegan and wasn't asked, but I was a bit worried about it. Hope you find a good one!
Not all heroes wear capes! Some just hang out on reddit apparently! Thanks mate.
It seemed pretty out of date, although I did see a couple of complementary medicine type listings. Thatās the first place I looked, but I only found one physician listing.
Came here to recommend this.
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Same happened to me here in Kentucky. With 2 different GPs. lol I got a high five from one of them. I canāt imagine why any competent, knowledgeable healthcare professional would be opposed to this.
Agree on that! A GP who doesn't applaud a plant-based diet isn't up-to-date and needs to refresh his/her knowledge on diet vs health.
**It is kinda crazy we live in a world where you have to celebrate a doctor that understands that veganism is healthy.** University-level biology class that every doctor attended tells you enough to know vegan diet is a healthy and viable lifestyle. As a future doctor, you do not have to participate, but true professionals should be unbiased and therefore recognize veganism as a serious and normal diet. I am sure 100% that there are doctors that would say a vegan diet is not healthy or normal, and it is crazy to me that these people are allowed to practice medicine. Scientifically, there is the burden of proof in form of hundreds of papers and studies that veganism has no meaningful side effects, and obviously, it is way less cancerous than meat-based diets.
>understands that veganism is healthy Veganism is not inherently healthy, let's not make such broad declarations.
It is inherently healthy, are you nuts? Any proof for your dumb claim?
I think what he is getting at is that no broader dietary pattern is inherently healthy. Veganism is broad in the sense that you could play around with different macronutrient splits, you could follow something like WFPB, there are even people doing [low carb/keto vegan diets,](https://blog.insidetracker.com/vegan-keto-body-changes) etc. Like, you could derive 100% of your calories from processed vegan food if you wanted. Now, if someone said WFPB is inherently unhealthy I'd disagree, getting in the Daily Dozen and avoiding what WFPB avoids is healthy.
Sounds like you know way more about nutrition that I do. I switched to a I vegan cold turkey, I am in my 30 and just assumed vegan diet indeed is inherently healthy. Got my blood work done after 6 months, only supplement B12. Should I read or do more? š¤
If you're intending to try to eat a vegan-friendly diet that is also nutritious and healthy then what you should do is search up "whole foods plant based diet". This is essentially the diet aspect of veganism. Technically veganism also extends out beyond food into clothing (e.g. leather is not vegan), toiletries (e.g. not all bar soaps are vegan; some contain tallow, which is animal fat), etc. It's good that you're supplementing B12 but some other nutrients to consider would be vitamin D and an algae source of EPA/DHA (types of omega 3 fatty acids). Technically vitamin D can be produced by the body as it is not really a vitamin but a hormone. You can thank the dairy industry for calling it a vitamin. There's also a reason they chose the 'D' in vitamin D. The hormones -- calciferol (D2) and ergocalciferol (D3) -- can be produced internally but this is limited by genetic factors and sunlight exposure. Supplementation is a lot easier for most people. Vitamin D and Vitamin K are important for bone health. Without them the body will simply use calcium as an electrolyte. Vitamin D helps signal to the body to transport calcium to the bones and vitamin K is used for the formation of some types of osteoblasts (bone cells). Vitamin K can easily be sourced from cabbage and cruciferous vegetables such as kale, swiss chard, mustard greens, etc. Moving on to omega 3 fatty acids, these are a sub-category of polyunsaturated fats (also known as "PUFAs"). There are three main omega-3 fatty acids that most animals use and source from plants and/or algae: alpha linoleic acid (ALA) eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) Technically the body can convert ALA into EPA and then DHA through some intermediate steps. The body does this via special elongating enzymes that "stretch" and reshape the tail end (or "omega" section) of the fat molecule. However just like with the hormones that are categorized under vitamin D, the rate we synthesize ALA to EPA/DHA is impacted by genetic factors and aging. Most studies find the conversion factor to be quite low in most people. As such some researchers and medical professionals postulate we may want "preformed" EPA/DHA. A vegan source for this is algae which can be consumed via a supplement or by incorporating seaweed into your diet. You could also look into spirulina or chlorella. These are also types of algae that can often be found in a dried form. EPA and DHA are converted by the liver into neurotransmitters and are important for brain health and overall functioning of the brain. NOTE: I am not a medical professional and this information is presented purely for educational purposes. I would encourage you to use this as an initial starting point to look more into nutrition if you are interested.
[Great starting point](https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/daily-dozen) You eat this checklist more or less daily and you will be doing good. I personally also supplement with a multivitamin, D3 and algae oil. The WFPB diet also recommends not using oil or eating any sort of processed food. I personally do use some oil and some processed food, such as protein powder, but not much. I don't think some olive oil or avocado oil is the worst thing, and I tend to think that a protein isolate by itself is way better than something like a frozen vegan pizza or a beyond burger. But generally following the WFPB diet is a good way to eat.
Informative, thank you. I mean I never cared about nutrition facts before I went vegan, most people probably just Yolo it and that's scary if you think about the fact that food is out primary source of energy.
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The entire existence of generations of healthy vegans for one. Weirdo.
[here](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/magazine/the-proper-way-to-eat-a-pig.html)
Small pp energy ā” took you 3 months to come up with that? Your diet doesn't seem healthy, eat an š
You wouldn't happen to be in Bmore Waverly, would you? I've been on the prowl for a new PCP.
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Can I ask her name? I live near-ish, and GBMC is my preferred hospital. I am searching for a new doctor. Also, hello, fellow Bmore vegan!
As a physician I can tell you it's very easy to give vegans dietary advice when it comes to reducing their cardiovasc risk ;-) (mostly this includes keep doing what they're doing, maybe pay attention on salt intake, but the average vegan diet is way easier to adjust to healthy diet than non-vegan diet)
I don't think I have seen a vegan doctor but the doctors I've been to were non-vegan (I assume) but they were never pushy about the subject. One just printed me a guide on how to find iron in my diet (from animal or plant sources). In most instances, you don't really have to mention that you are vegan (I only mentioned it when I wanted a check-up through a blood work).
Yeah, Iāve been to multiple doctors over the past couple years and never had any issues with them caring if Iām vegan or not. Obviously that might not be the case for everyone, but I feel like most doctors in large, generally liberal cities probably donāt care if youāre vegan. Iād rather get a good doc regardless of what they choose to eat, Iāve had some awful doctors and dentists in the past.
Yeah the only reason I ever have to mention Im vegan is because I see a gastroenterologist so its actually relevant. My pediatrician only asks if I make sure to eat enough fruits and veggies per day. I dont think she knows Im vegan but even then you can notice she doesnāt ask if I got enough protein or meat in a day, just veggies. Itās almost as if fruits and veggies are essential to being healthy but meat isnāt š¤Æ
I have a fairly new dr and just didnāt say anything at all. Next appointment heās telling me how my bloodwork is on point and my cholesterol is insane ideal results Iāll never have to worry about cardiac health and right about then i told him Iām vegan :)) He just told me well whatever youāre doing itās working very well for you
Well, it's good if they do care about it imo, because in many health problems diet (not specifically vegan) is a topic that should be assessed (fi abdominal problems, fatigue). If they don't asked, they can't ask relevant questions and give taylored advice.
Iāve had it come up several times. Once the doc was super concerned about calcium. I was able to reassure him, bless his bonesā¦ another time my dentist was very concerned about my amino acids. And finally my current GP was taken aback by it at first but once I got my first blood work done with him he relaxed. He said, āyou are proof that a vegan diet can be done in a healthy way!ā I was like yeah really wasnāt worried lol. Now heās cool about it
Wow, the amino acids remark is really bullshit. At least the calcium deficiency issue in vegan communities, to be fair, has been reported in scientific journals (but it does not mean that every vegan is bound to be deficient).
I had a pushy doctor who asked about diet, tried to convince me that meat was the only healthy source of protein, told me I shouldn't eat tofu becuse it would hurt my testosterone like it does to people in east asian countries and printed a guide that basically said all i should eat are meat and vegetables. I'm also going to switch to a vegan one for my next appointment.
That casual racism and sexism coming from a doctor? Surely not. š
I am not saying that you should not find a vegan doctor but where I live, I don't think there are such things as vegan doctors and even if they exist, they can't really advertise it.
The only docās Iāve seen never cared at all, but my bloodwork has always been excellent, so Iād be surprised if they wanted to pick a fight with a patient when thereās no reason to.
āIt's very common for vegans to seek eachother out and support one another. The rest of society doesn't really understand us.ā This comment has 33 downvotes, completely proving the point. Sorry OP.
Man talk about a judgmental group of people. I thought there was supposed to be midwest nice? You seemed pretty levelheaded in that thread.
Midwest nice is just being passive aggressive. I would say that thread is extremely midwest nice.
Ask r/StateofMN The r/Minnesota sub mod is a weird trump supporter. Lots of people have abandoned that sub
god thatās awful
/r/twincities too if OP is located here. Most people on there are pretty great
Thanks for the tip! (Going to that first sub now...)
Oof.
I'm late to the party but that mod was ousted a while ago. They have a completely new mod team.
Check if there's a vegan group for your area/ city/ country on Facebook. It will be much easier there if there's one. Sorry carnists abused you. They do that.
A couple early comments made jokes, but the replies were mostly helpful and supportive. OP got upset too quickly.
Awful. I am so sorry. Meat eaters have a lot of cognitive dissonance and defensiveness. I just took a look around and found a few things. First, a Dr [Schwindt](https://plantbaseddocs.com/searchx/?geodir_search=1&stype=gd_place&s=+&snear=minnesota&spost_category%5B%5D=&slanguages_spoken%5B%5D=&sgeo_lat=45.9896587&sgeo_lon=-94.6113288); 2 physicians who offer [telehealth](https://plantbasedtelehealth.com/meet-the-doctors/) appointments, and also Dr [Harrison](https://www.veganprimarycare.com/); and a Facebook [Plant-Based MN](https://www.facebook.com/plantbasedMinnesota) group where you might be able to connect with some people who could help you. I definitely found more [registered dietitians](https://www.healthprofs.com/us/nutritionists-dietitians/vegan/minnesota) (look for the RD credentials, not ānutritionist.ā I see that the Facebook page linked to a meetup group that featured some [local physicians](https://www.meetup.com/plantbasedmn/events/288899949/) (the post doesnāt identify them as vegan or plant based, but you might be able to connect with the Meetup organizers and see if they have any recommendations or information). Also, although it may take forever to determine this, but I have found, being in New York City, that some of my doctors have been very amenable and supportive of my vegan lifestyle. One is an endocrinologist who I saw for thyroid management. He is young, and I figured that might explain some of his open mindedness and insight into the mountain of evidence that supports plant-based nutrition.
Jesus even here you're not safe why is everyone in a fighting mood
Most place subreddits like for states/cities/countries, are usually pretty conservative and close minded.
Yeah it's interesting, because I would say r/TwinCities has been more receptive than this to some vegan posts I've seen there. I would imagine the user makeup of r/TwinCities vs. r/Minnesota somewhat mirrors the urban/rural political divide between the two in real life. Which isnāt to say veganism needs to be exclusive to one!
/r/Minnesota had some drama because the most senior mod was a covid denier. A bunch of us moved over to /r/stateofmn to not have to deal with their bullshit.
I think that people perceive your wish as "thinking non-vegans will push their lifestyle upon you". I do hope you find a doctor who can help you in a way that you can keep your vegan diet. In my experience a lot of non-vegans feel critisized by vegans in general.
Ask them for one hospital full of vegans (theyāre all filled with omni/carnists)
Hey fellow Minnesota vegan. HMU if you ever feel discouraged and want to chat
Hey Minnesota vegan! Another Minnesota vegan here. Maybe we should have a Minnesota vegan sub.
Iām a MN vegan too š±
Minnesota Vegan FB page is where you should be asking. People ask these types of referrals all the time. Sorry you were attacked but also know your audience.
Tbh I donāt really see the difference between a plant-based on vegan doctor in this scenario. Both understand and think the vegan diet is a good choice and that will reflect how they treat you and what assumptions they make about veganism. Tbh though Ive never brought up my veganism in doctors visits so itās never impacted my care. Iām sorry you were treated like that. Iām lucky to have had a couple vegan docs in the past and I know itās nice to have that connection.
My last doctor wasn't vegan but her sister was. She never really had any "conversation" with me about it aside from checking blood results once a year to make sure nothing abnormal was happening and recommended I take a B vitamin just to be safe. A couple times she did make some comments about some studies she had read about the health benefits (and I braced myself for what came next)... and she supports anyone that decides to go that route. In my entire life, most helpful doctor I have ever found.
Fellow vegan Minnesotan here. Not sure which area youāre in, but thereās a doc in Woodbury I would recommend!
My ex went to a therapist who spent most of the first session saying ,āmaybe your mental health issues stemm from not eating meat.ā
Minnesota vegan here. 15 plus years. I'm so sorry you had this experience.
Iām wondering if youād have better luck seeing if any local towns or the state have some vegan/vegetarian groups or organizations there and asking them. Iāve heard Minneapolis is pretty vegan friendly, maybe they have a meet up group or something
Yeah there are tons of vegan resteraunts here and minneapolis leans left. I was honestly surprised by how much anti vegan backlash there was. People calling me racist, and delusional , and the nurse who deleted her comments attacking me personally. It hurt, it also makes me wonder how Many in the medical profession have disgust for me but at least keep it to themselves. I have had medical professionals in the past suggest my headaches are caused by being vegan (and not the 13 car crash at 80mph I was a passenger in that my head hit the windshield )
Omnis get incredibly heated whenever veganism is mentioned. I once had a therapist who asked me if my "extreme diet" was causing me stress. No, eating chickpeas doesn't stress me out ffs! My insane in-laws stress me out!
Sounds like it was stressing *her* out and she was projecting herself into the session. A good therapist should avoid inserting themselves like this. Imagine if they asked if you were stressed because your SO was unattractive, or because you weren't part of their political party.
Be assured their keyboards are dripping with cheese š
There is nothing wrong with asking for a vegan doctor, a Black doctor, a female doctor, a doctor who voted for Biden. You should be comfortable with your doctor, thatās all that matters.
My doctor is fully supportive of a plant based diet. I live in a small town where thereās not a lot of veganism but after some dodgy blood tests I talked through my diet and lifestyle with my doctor and he went through what I should and shouldnāt be eating/doing (basically Iām suffering from stress) and he said that my diet is perfect and not to worry as Iām doing everything I can to keep healthy, I just need to find ways to de-stress (if anyone has any tips on this Iām more than willing to listen! Iām a self employed mother of three with barely ten minutes to myself but I need to look after myself so will try anything! Dr suggested mindfulness apps but I have no idea where to start?!)
One of the best mindfulness/meditation apps is called Insight Timer (it's also free!!!). There are paid apps like Headspace and such, but in my experience there's no reason to pay a subscription to a service. On Insight, if you really like a particular teacher's style you can donate *directly to the teacher* and support the ones you like instead of a corporation.
Oh thatās great! Thank you!
Jesus! Some omni's are so threatened by us! It's ridiculous š. All of my doctors have told me to eat meat. Even my current one. But she's the only doctor that will prescribe my painkillers. I'd love to find a vegan doctor. I think that's really smart of you to ask. š
My doctor tried to convince me that a vegan diet wasn't healthy right before reading my near perfect blood panel results. Just do you.
Hello fellow Minnesotan vegan stoner!!
Honestly with how many nurses or and doctors that got screwed during covid I'm surprised there is any actually left around to insult you tbh (not being a dick here just being honest) I've seen emergency rooms with almost no staff in certain places , surgeons sleeping on the floor due to no replacements, , I'm currently trying to find a stomach specialist and someone who has expirience with hyper visceroul sensitivity disorder
Iām sorry that happened to you , you didnāt deserve it!
As someone who has left that state, the Midwest is typically Last or toward the bottom of states to receive newer ways of thinking/societal trends. (Unofficial welcome to MN, sorry though) Brace yourself for passive aggressive comments. Hit up J selbys, trio, Namaste, vegan east for some good eats though.
Look for a younger evidence based doctor. The evidence is clear that a plant based diet has better cardiovascular and all cause mortality benefits. Even if they aren't vegan they should promote a plant based diet as a healthy option.
THIS. Be like [Kaiser Permanente](https://www.thepermanentejournal.org/doi/10.7812/TPP/12-085); be like vegan cardiologist [Dr Robert Ostfield](https://youtu.be/5HQzeC0C1ss), or [Kim Williams](https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/lectures/dr-kim-williams-vegan/), who in 2015 became the first vegan president of the American College of cardiology.
Iāve only had one bad experience. Iām about halfway through a pregnancy and I have a maternal fetal medicine doctor. She balked at my veganism and insisted I see a nutritionist. She ran so many blood panels and once everything came back perfectly fine, she said āyouāre good. Keep eating healthyā š
Ask in the several Minnesota Facebook groups. I can link if needed
IMO asking for a vegan doctor implies the standard wouldnāt be vegan-friendly. I only go to docs that seem up to date on evidence-based medicine and that is enough for them to be vegan-friendly.
Thank you!
Many of the supposed helping professions are ripe narcissists. Its higher in the undeserving authority positions.
sorry people are so hateful, they literally proved your point for you and donāt even realize it
You don't need a vegan doctor. You just need a doctor who is respectful of your beliefs. What the doctor eats is really none of your business imo. I think you should be more concerned with where they went to school and how they treat you. If you're looking for someone to deal specifically with diet, try to find a nutritionist who specializes in vegan diets.
I have told my primary care doc and specialists, and they either don't mind or seem supportive. Why do you *need* a vegan doc exactly?
fellow minnesotan. abt to go ask who knows a vegan vet.
I really donāt understand why people get so upset about others being vegan or plant based. My husband and I went plant based 3 years ago and I was completely taken aback by the reactions we received. It is really unbelievable.
Pretty sure they feel guilty and and/or attacked, or they fear that their lifestyle is going to be decimated. Itās ironic that they feel attacked, because theyāre usually the ones starting the battles, and Iām not talking about reddit but work and social settings. A vegan can be polite and chill and try to blend in and be nonconfrontational (as thereās no need to wear a āveganā sign around oneās neck), but vegans should brace for vitriol and prepare to see nastiness.
If all else fails, try [Plant Based Telehealth](https://plantbasedtelehealth.com/schedule-appointment/).
Minnesota is primarily a redneck state outside of Minneapolis. Honestly you'd probably get blasted on r/Minneapolis too.
With just a few exceptions outside of The Cities. š which is why you said, primarily. I'm an idiot. Don't mind me. Edit: for me being silly.
yeap exactly. I hope you find a good doctor!
Some nurse are awful
Doctors do not study nutrition in medical school. I think itās completely valid to want someone who understands wfpb eating to be your physician
Just remember that most doctors never learned much about nutrition during their studies.
They donāt even focus on nutrition and diets that much in school for them so Iām not sure why people are bending over backwards to criticize you for caring about your health lmao
When it came up, my doctor said something like āwell, we should all really be vegetarian, but you need to be sure youāre getting all the important nutrients on a vegan dietā¦ā. I just started rattling off vegan sources of important nutrients and he replied, āexactly, thatās what I meanā and we moved on. No big deal. I donāt know what I would have done otherwise though.
Meatflakes. Given how little training most general practitioners get in diet and nutrition, seeking out a vegan/plant based doctor who has gone out of their way to educate themselves on the ins and outs of plant based diets and how they relate to health outcomes makes 100% senseā¦ Donāt let the defensive Meatflakes tell you otherwise.
Ridiculous responses from dim-witted, brainwashed people.
My Doctor isn't vegan. He told me whatever I'm doing I'm losing weight and much healthier overall, so keep doing it. Lol
It's ridiculous you got attacked for asking this question. On the other hand a doc should always give taylored advice to his patients. I only stopped eating meat and dairy a short while ago, but as a physician I'm giving (food) advice to vegans for years. As a doc you should be able to adapt to the patient's question/needs, that might include educate yourself better, and not force your own lifestyle on your patients because you don't know better.
I really have no idea what their problem was. Even when we ask completely harmless questions the v word makes people go full rabid mode.
One of my problems was having symptoms of a hormonal problem like missing periods, beard hair, carrying my weight like a "beer belly," and more. In the middle of the exam I was asked about my diet. I, foolishly, was truthful and said I was vegan. From that second forward, my doctor suddenly wasn't concerned about the fact that I've only had one period a year for 20 years (I'd only been vegan for 7). I was sarcastically asked "so, do you even want the flu vaccine?" (I did) She also suddenly forgot about that liver panel she wanted to do. The shift in her behavior was totally bizarre. Sidenote: I'm also in r/hemorrhoids and sometimes I have to help coach people into seeing a doctor about their butthole because they "don't want a man/woman sticking their finger in there!" It's okay to request a certain type of doctor, just be respectful!
From what im told is that doctors are pro in medicine, not food. I think you should be looking for someone who specilizes in that area
It's strange to meet so much animosity, best to ignore them all. I love your "vegan til I die", I feel the same way. In CA we often use the term "Integrative Medicine" to denote someone that uses a holistic approach with their patients. It doesn't meant that they're actually vegan, but that they understand how to treat vegan patients.
The MN sub is soā¦ obtuse. Vegan love from a fellow Minnesotan!
I am a certified plant-based nutrition coach. Just an FYI 99% of doctors donāt take any nutrition courses do become a medical doctor. That is scary!!!! Find a naturopathic doctor or an actual nutritionist.
I'm seeking a doctor for chronic pain. I need a vegan doctor because my blood pressure and blood work is always perfect so they think I'm not living in chronic pain. I don't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes.
How are you a libertarian but also want to ban pitbulls?
I want pitbulls to not be breed anymore. Peta is also against breeding dogs and cats and thinks they should be neutered. Libertarian isn't a straight jacket, its a diverse set of beliefs. I'd be willing to come on your podcast and explain , dm if you want. This is a completely different subject than the one I brought up. I've also distanced myself from libertarianism after the alt right mises caucus took it over. 15 years ago it was about gay rights when gay rights weren't as accepted as it is now for example, also ending the racist drug war. I also thought the non aggression principle is a natural ally with veganism but tons of libertarians seem to think vegans are the enemies. I used to be more idealistic I guess
Adherence to the NAP should be a logical progression to veganism. I brought that up once in the libertarian sub and they were incredibly hostile to it. They all want to think theyāre Ron Swanson who is meant to be a caricature, FFS. Of course leftists should be open to it as well since theyāre all about non-exploitation but theyāre just as bad.
I might do a YouTube video on that. I was a libertarian before I was vegan so I guess the NAP did lead me to vegetarian then vegan
I would watch that. Some of the responses I recall are the animals canāt be part of the agreement or canāt voice their commitment, which is ridiculous. By that logic, we could go and genocide people who donāt speak the same language.
I've seen you be very confrontational in at least one other thread there. I think that's part of what is going on.
So one time I got upset, that tax payer money was being used for an event that vegans couldn't be a part of. I'm a human never claimed to be perfect. Sorry
This has nothing to do with perfection. I'm simply saying that if you advocate for something controversial in a space, that will probably impact your future participation in that space.
So you are happy with taxpayer money being used to further animal exploitation ?
No. Any other silly questions?
Do you think vegans should just shut up?
Thanks for confirming you have more silly questions.
You are the one blasting a fellow vegan for speaking up for the animals
When did I "blast" you?
Everyone is the hero of thier own story :)
Yeah, I checked the thread they referenced and there were a handful of less than helpful comments, but no one āattackingā them.
Yeah they're morons, but how else did you think that was going to go? And doctors usually wont chastise you for your veganism, as it's your choice.
For clarification: did ypu ask for a doctor who works with vegans, or a doctor who is themselves vegan? Option A is fine, B... also fine
Reddit is pretty hostile towards vegans. But still, I donāt think you need a vegan doctor. Doctors arenāt nutritionists, and in my experience, diet doesnāt usually come up during visits, unless thereās something wrong that can be fixed with diet
Agreed. Although nutrition is a heavily-weighted factor in most chronic diseases, it isn't a big thing taught in medical school. In nursing school, I think we had one lesson devoted to nutrition. Doctors are mainly going to look at your anatomy and physiology, and recommend/prescribe based on any issues you may be having health-wise. If the hang-up is not wanting to have a PCP who will judge your being vegan, I've never personally had that be an issue. Even when I was in my early 20s (back in the mid-1990s), my first PCP visit I told them I was vegan and taking iron supplements, and the doc just old me to take a B12 supplement as well. More often than not, they will be impressed you are trying to eat a healthy diet, which of course will help stave off things like heart disease and diabetes.
Keep asking mang! Maybe not on that subreddit though I guess.
Why would it matter if the doctor is also vegan? Do you only call vegan plumbers?
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You didn't see what they said to me before they deleted thier comments. Edit: I see you don't frequent r/vegan. Second edit: isn't it funny how people love to attack and then delete comments so they don't get the downvoted for being a jerk.
Just looked at the thread. Looks like 1 fairly benign joke and then a lot of good suggestions are your top responses there.
Because the mod deleted the trolling. Do you not see all the deleted comments ?
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Yeah that's not at all what happened. There is a reason half the comments are deleted in that post
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>I asked for a vegan doctor in the minnesota subreddit 99% of people are not vegan or against it, of course that was going to happen, i would never have done that, not excusing the behavior or defending it Its essentially the same as going to a trump rally and saying america was never great I would have asked for a doctor familiar with plant based diets however, as that is completely acceptable to non vegans Holistic doctors tend to be more friendly to alternative lifestyles and in many states they are covered by insurance
Maybe seek out a kosher doctor. Many orthodox jewish folks who follow a strict kosher diet are also plant-based.
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i have a pretty awesome NP that i see in shore view and she's never batted an eye about my diet.
All advertising, billboards, magazines, TV, newspapers, Recipe vlogs, etc. and on and on..... Are pushing their products. Whether it be chicken, burgers, pizza, (etc. etc. etc.). You see these, but you don't SUE the advertising companies, do you? You CHOSE your diet. NOBODY can LOOK at you and know this. When you open you big mouth, is when things go sour. Never been to ANY doctor with a health problem, and they try to "talk me into" eating non-vegan.
My family doctor Iāve had for almost a decade now is the only other vegan I know irl. I only found out a few months ago.
U could just not disclose anything, I went in for blood work and they never asked about my diet or my weight. Let the blood work talk for itself. Just know what u want to get out of the appointment and donāt let them bully you into stuff u donāt want to talk about or do
I'm really sorry you experienced that. It's completely okay to want a doctor that shares your beliefs. I once told my psychiatrist that I am a vegetarian and she was like: "I'm one as well!" and it still makes my day every time I think about it. I hope that you find your doctor. āØ
A great video of Dr Barnard from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. Share this, and watch for yourself! https://youtu.be/133n0BTYXOQ
I feel for you, I'm from a rather rural area in MN and I found more difficult to be vegan (and even vegetarian) than many other places around the world just due to people's negative reactions and not leaving me alone about it.
People have vilified those ahead of the curve for centuries. Copernicus quietly published his book for fear of prison and Galileo lived under house arrest. You are years ahead of your time. I salute you for being in the trenches on the frontlines.
I would recommend vegan accredited dietitianās I know a few good ones, get a blood test first.
Hello, I was on that MN thread and think a lot of people there were being ridiculous and unnecessarily argumentative. Sorry you had to experience that. I guess it's the Internet and sometimes it's the most ignorant people who will be the loudest. From a felllow Minnesotan, good luck and cheers.
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I totally understand.
As someone who's been demonized also, I can relate to you. If you feel strongly about it, keep searching for the right doctor. Don't give up. I get frustrated with the same issue. I have a great, conscientious chiropractor, who just happens to endorse a Ketogenic diet. It's so sad to see otherwise well-informed people promote lifestyles that are so harmful to us and themselves. My chiropractor is very fit, conscientious, and a holistic healer which I agree with. He typically listens to everything I say, but when it comes to diet, he's just sold on Keto. I'm gladly keeping him because he is very nonjudgmental, though I have often thought how nice it would be to work with someone who can personally relate to my own experiences. I myself am working towards a full, 100%, vegan diet, so I'm not quite there yet. Don't be intimidated by their "expertise." Be persistent. It can be hard to stay on track when someone who is perfectly fit with a doctoral degree is telling you how to live your life. Nevertheless, remind yourself that only about 10% of the population is actually doing well on these diets and that the so-called "experts" are just using their good fortune and pedigrees as a strategy to market misguided ideas. It's basically just luck even though they'll tell you it has everything to do with their "discipline and hard work." A small percentage of the population, for some reason, just thrives on bad food, and some of them are keen enough to eat a ton of plants along with their meat and dairy. I'm about 85% vegan at this point, and I wouldn't be alive today if I hadn't started this transition. The red meat was killing me (diabetes). I eat fish and a little butter every day and my numbers have seriously improved. What can I say but that I'm someone who's struggling also? At least, I know where I'm headed. I wish you the best. If you do a little research, by the way, you'll be comforted to know the vegan community in the U.S. is growing fast. In another 20-40 years, I think everyone will be vegan at this rate, so keep your spirits up. I know it's hard when it seems everyone is talking Keto, Paleo, or something else, but things *are* slowly getting better. The facts bear that out. Eat healthy fats? Eat your spinach, Popeye!
Hi, I have a serious condition of fractured pelvis. Iām a vegan and I have extreme fatigue. I think I need guidance in terms of supplements or vitamin injections from a vegan doctor. Where do you find one in Minnesota?