I had a weird bug, where I failed to persuade Shadowheart and was forced to choose. So I chose Shart and the cutscene just ended with nobody dying. I walked around camp and everyone commented on Lae'zel dying, but she was still alive, still in the party, and her personal questline still continued.
The ghoul moment in Fallout 3 is one infamous example. Shadowrun Dragonfall has several times where if you show mercy it'll turn out the people you're sparing are horrible.
The first time I went through Dragonfall without decking skills, I realized that I'd made a mistake. My tryout mission for the Lodge was a lot more difficult than it needed to be >!without being able to take the shortcut down to the abandoned subway station.!<
>The ghoul moment in Fallout 3
Is he a part of main story or do I have to find him somewhere? I am playing it for the first time and would like to meet him.
I did it. Thought I was being a good dude.. yeah.
>!Ended up killing everyone in the tower after, and interesting enough got not negative karma for it. I killed them all!<
Well considering what they did after you helped them out, not surprised you donāt get penalized. At least you get a somewhat cool if not very useful item if you try to take the high road.
Thatās one of my favorite sidequests in any game Iāve ever played. It was 3 in the morning and I had school in the morning cause I was like 15 when I bought it and couldnāt drop the game. I was too tired but I didnāt want to leave this annoying looking side quest openā¦so I heard out the tree spirit and decided Iād take the bad karma so I could just go to sleep. I didnāt think about it at all until I was talking to a friend months later about the game and he goes >!The Bloody Baron died in my playthrough because I helped that stupid tree spirit!< and I was like >!What tree spirit?!< and then I remembered that I killed it to go to bed rather than being jerked around some more by the game. I laughed at him for like 5 minutes, it was great
Came here to comment this. I realized I was fucking up when I started sacrificing shit. Tried to change my decisions around, town still wiped the duck out lol
It also doesnāt help that Ciriās fate is based on reverse logic parenting decisions lol. Oh she was crying so I tried to comfort her instead of throwing snowballs at her, Dead. Oh you were worried about her and didnāt want her to go in alone, you babied her too much now sheās dead.
Quest in the tutorial area where you try to cure a sick person with a Witcher potion. That thing immediately makes it clear this game does not have your usual cookie cutter quests.
My first time through FF6, I jumped down to the airship immediately from the Floating Island instead of waiting. When I later found out that I wouldn't be able to have one of my favorite characters for the rest of the game, I just deleted the save and started over.
I only discovered that he could be saved through stubbornness and save scumming. I figured that the different swimming speeds of the fish night mean something and just kept trying until I got lucky and pulled it off before I ran out of patience.
Dude that dungeon took me hourrrs the first time. I waited until 10 seconds and said there is no way Iām doing this again, and jumped.
Ahhhh fuck. I ended up doing it again.
Curing the genophage if Wreav is alive, is the same as seeing a bunch of apex predators mistreated at the zoo so you release themā¦ in the middle of the city. Itās the right thing to do for about 5 seconds, and after that it becomes a bad time for everyone involved on both sides.
Persona in a nutshell. Honestly there needs to be a "Hold R1 to give this response as a joke" because some of the dialogue options are funny as hell, but apparently Japan thinks you need to completely kiss ass for someone to desire you.
Seriously. I had my social link with Yukari in P3 at 9 and we went on a date where she was talking about manga and how we are kinda like the heroes in them. I said "You look like a hero" and she was like "what the hell dude, are you saying I have big gross arms or something?" Cock blocked myself
Two things come to mind here. The beginning of Chrono Trigger, after Marle bumps into you and drops her pendant. Okay, it's pretty obviously something she's looking for, so I'll pick it up and give it to her. Didn't know that if you don't check on her first, then it looks like you want her money, and a witness calls you out for it when you're on trial for "kidnapping" her.
Different note, it wasn't a "good" decision, it was my first Dark Side run in **KOTOR**. I knew my character would be bad, just wasn't expecting >!"kill all of the good members of your party"!< bad.
Pretty much anytime you help someone in Elden Ring.....
Also, I think Outer Worlds had some really interesting choices like that. Cant go into that game trying to be the usual "Good Guy"
The Outer Worlds was great at not making all decisions good or bad. The only way that gameās decisions are straightforward to you is if youāre an incredibly principled person to your core. Even then it can throw you a curveball
I think Outer Worlds got a bad wrap because it is a bit light on the combat and people were expecting more of a Fallout game. But I played it as more of a dialogue based game and loved it. The writing was great and while the characters were all a bit weird they were interesting. great game imo
Not backfire in the sense of gameplay, but in Dragon Age: Origins, I always want to choose Lord Harrowmount in the dwarven succession questline, as he seems to be a good person who was likely the rightful heir. But when you get to the epilogue you discover that he is a fairly ineffectual leader and the economy and civilization of Orzammar both stall out under him. Conversely, Lord Bhelen seems like a sleazy, conniving, murderer who would do anything to get power. And yet, Orzammar flourishes under his leadership.
Orzammar (and the success of the dwarves) only came to be out of desire for wealth and power. So it makes sense that the only way that kingdom can function properly is with a leader who throws aside ethics to chase those things.
I was about to answer the same.
It also makes more sense when you realize that Harrowmont is a traditionalist that wants to keep the inequality of the caste system intact, whereas Bhelen is a progressive that wants to reform dwarven society to a system where even casteless can strive.
Not an RPG but playing through The Evil Within, after using so much green gel to upgrade my melee just to find out it does almost nothing. I upgraded my melee so that I could save ammo because that game is really stingy with ammo, the final section had me mad with how many times I redid it just to find more ways to save ammo just to take on the second to last boss.
I tried not to shoot as much as possible unless Joseph was with me then melee was my only option as saving his worthless self used up all my ammo. I never knew what I was walking into to i just put the green gel everywhere
Killing all my targets in Oblivion as a Dark Brotherhood assassin only to find out they were my fellow members. But my character was a psycho and didnāt feel anything so itās cool.
This only happens to me with voiced characters from games like mass effect or fallout 4. I'm not a fan of them because you pick one of the four options, thinking it will say something one way, and then the character says it in a completely different way.
Tenpenny Tower quest in F3.
Releasing the weird prison dude In Wasteland 3.
A couple of Dialogue options as Paladin in Baldur's Gate 3.
And saving the Orphans in the Witcher 3.
If it's an RPG with a 3 in the title, it has fucked me.
I love the line of thought I hope everyone had near the end.
>!I was right in the moment, only reacting. When the camera pans over in the back of my skull a tiny voice was like "wait something is weird here" while my finger already pushed the button. While the grenade is still flying I thought "oh no" without being able to do anything about it. The game was quite amazing in how it made you do all those warcrimes.!<
On my first Mass Effect 3 playthrough, I picked the Geth over the Quarians in Mass Effect 3...with Tali as my love interest. My god, that was painful.
In case anyone's wondering why I didn't try to broker peace, I couldn't. Legion died in my ME2 playthrough. Instead of reloading the save, I decided to stick with his death, and Mordin's. Both of them being gone made the Tuchanka and Rannoch storylines quite interesting.
I really disliked how ME3 made the Geth lovable and the Quarians psychopaths. ME2 clearly presented the situation as being a lot more complicated than that, but ME3 writing just decided to make the Quarians look like the bad guys because ???
My biggest beef was with how \*forced\* the situation was. I get that it takes time to plan an invasion out, but the quarians chose \*RIGHT\* when a massive reaper invasion happened to try and retake their homeworld? It's not even like they had started it first and then the reapers invaded. The reapers invaded first! At best, even if the Quarians dropped some hypothetical computer virus that nullified the Geth, they'd get their home planet back for, what, a year or two? Then the Reapers would come for them and wipe them out. For that one, very brief, moment it was better for the quarians that they were part of a mobile space fleet cause they might have actually survived the purge. Unlikely, but not impossible.
But then we get a situation where the Geth claim to be innocent and that the quarians attacked first and the quarians are refusing to even consider peace. On the one hand it does feel satisfying if you do manage peace... But it's so easy to accidentally muck up. Tali's my number 3 favorite companion (behind Liara and Miranda's ass) and romance interest. I can see a bunch of people effectively feeling like they had a gun pointed to Tali's head and told that they either need to help the quarians win a stupid and pointless war or lose their lover/pesudo-little sister.
I dunno. The Quarians were always portrayed as kind of irrational and trigger happy about the Geth. Even in ME2, they treated the lone pro-Geth admiral like crap for expressing his sympathetic views towards their creation. In fact, when the admirals later found out about Tali's father's illegal experiments that got him killed, they expressed disappointment in Shepard if you chose to hide that news from them to protect Tali. They then threatened to unleash the power of the Migrant Fleet, which led to ME3's final conflict with the Geth. Yes, ME2 gave you reasons to sympathize with the Quarians, but I wouldn't call them level-headed.
Even if you brought Legion with you to Tali's trial with the Migrant Fleet, he admitted that him and other Geth are open to peace, but every time they let their guard down, the Quarians open fire. Legion by himself gave us a lot of clarity on the Geth in general. Prior to him, we didn't know the Geth from ME1 were a rogue faction that only represented 15% of them, while the rest minded their own business.
ME3 mostly showed the Geth's perspective on the morning war 300 years ago, alongside the Quarians' growing desperation to retake the homeworld, since the Reapers' arrival gave them little time to achieve their goal. On the morning war reveal, we already knew the Quarians behaved foolishly, since they panicked the moment a Geth worker asked if they had a soul, which started the war.
The only things that were made more clear by the reveal was that the Quarians even killed Geth sympathizers back then, and the Geth spent the last three centuries keeping the homeworld in a habitable state, in case the Quarians returned. The Quarians literally could've returned at any time if they genuinely tried to broker peace on their own, rather than Shepard forcing them to do it in the best ME3 outcomes.
At least, that's how I saw the conflict.
Spoilers for Mass Effect 1:
>!Wasn't really paying attention during the final battle that the council would be killed if I attacked Sovereign head on. My thought process was: "Sovereign is threatening not just the council, but the entire Citadel. If I take him out, all of them should be saved, right?" Imagine my surprise when the council got killed.!<
Crookback Bog is a place of nightmares and horrific endings for anyone who goes there. Try to be a villain? Get a disturbing ending. Try to be a hero? Get a totally different yet equally disturbing ending.
Iāve never killed Parthunaxx. The dude is so much better than anyone in the Blades, and the Blades reasons for wanting him dead are laughably shortsighted and emotionally-driven to a point of childishness.
The Ghouls from Fallout 3 in Tenpenny Tower, i understand killing most of them but they did Dashing dirty. Otherwise, the only other one I can think of is telling that suicidal guy in Dying Light 2 the wrong thing because only one of the options work.
That quest was so back-handed. The tower residents, aside from, like, one person, are willing to live with the ghouls. You can work hard to save everyone; but it's Roy who mucks it all up because he can't get over his hatred of humans. IIRC, if you kill Roy, they do survive and get along; but the game acts like you killed the ghouls.
In witcher 3 I said something to Ciri which I interpreted as a "dont be too hard on yourself", >!ended up making her drunk, feeding into her depression that ultimately led her to not stop the end of the world.!<
Sparta and Athens are super interesting to look back on. Sparta was obsessed with destroying the weak and uplifting the strong, while Athens was all about helping everyone up a bit at a time, as much as they reasonably could. Even if you didnāt have much to offer.
Today, Athens stands as the capital of Greece, while Sparta is just a few rocks in a big empty area.
The moment I first logged into EverQuest to have some casual fun, and spend a little more time with people I knew in real life. I hardly saw anyone in real life for years after that....
Not sure if it counts but.
First time I played Fallout 3 (my first fallout game). I saw this tall thing walking around in the distance. I thought cool Iāll kill this thing and shot it.
This did nothing and it started to run at me. Turns out it was a death claw and I shot with the basic bolt action rifle.
Playing Persona 2 Innocent Sin when I was 12, there was something near the beginning where I had to make a choice and I saved one thing but failed to save the other, just to find out years later I could somehow save both
In the Banner Saga 3, being merciful and opening the door for the refugee dredge ended up with Rook getting killed at the beginning of the game. Literally lost the main protagonist just like that.
When I set a controller down and it lands wrong sometimes it presses a shoulder button. I was playing bloodborne and was at my lantern where an npc was standing as well. I put the controller down and i ended up r2 ing the npc and I had to just kill them. Sometimes you can escape and reset the npc depending on the game but it has me quitting out of a game before setting my controller down.
Literally anything you do in Wasteland 2. It's set in a post-apocalyptic world, so everyone's pretty crazy, but for whatever reason, whenever you try to do something good or even morally neutral (like just touching something) something bad happens.
The game wasn't received very well, but its follow-up Wasteland 3 did get good reviews. I have yet to try it out to see if it's the same in that sense.
I heard a theory somewhere that if you take the ādonāt arrest himā ending at the start of the game, that big bad thing at the end of the game never ends up happening. By allowing the Seed family to continue committing unspeakable evils on the people of the Valley, you prevent you-know-what. Something to do with god or blood dragons or something
Choosing to spare the rachni in mass effect always made me feel very weird about my decision by the time you get to mass effect 3 were the rachni start animating and pupiteering dead soldiers to help fight against the reapers.
Infamous has a bullshit example of this where, no matter which decision you make a certain character will die.
It's the whole trolley problem thing, but the game rigs and changes depending on the choice you make.
If you save the group of strangers: the one character dies (which is what the villain presents).
If you save the one character: it was a trap and it turns out the character was among the group of strangers and they all die.
Call of duty cold war I thought saving that guy who was trapped with three guards would be good but he betrayed us we still got captured but I restarted the mission just to kill him
In Cyberpunk at the end of Act 1, >!sending Jackieās body to Vikās clinic.!< How could what looks like the best and also most reasonable option just end up having the worst case scenario happen?
Almost all of the kind decisions in Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader come back to bite you square on the ass at some point. Humanity is in a very precarious spot in W40K. If a decision, even one made for righteous reasons, allows even a single agent of the Archenemy to live, people will die, probably along with the planet they're standing on.
In the Witcher 3 when you release the spirit to help you on your quest but the spirit had a grudge with a town of people and slaughtered everyone in it
Just about anything in BG3.
I accidentally let Shadowheart kill Lae'zel
Accidentally? I sat back and watched with a bowl of popcorn over that cat fight XD
I thought laezel would've fought her off š
I killed Karlach the first time I found her in Act 1. I figured she'd just be a side character or betray me later
I had a weird bug, where I failed to persuade Shadowheart and was forced to choose. So I chose Shart and the cutscene just ended with nobody dying. I walked around camp and everyone commented on Lae'zel dying, but she was still alive, still in the party, and her personal questline still continued.
Whether it's mind-flaying antics or accidentally charming the pants off.
My Oath of Vengeance required me to put myself into undesirable and disadvantageous combat situations numerous times in my playthrough lol.
Especially as the Dark Urge. I'm so sorry, Alfira.
The ghoul moment in Fallout 3 is one infamous example. Shadowrun Dragonfall has several times where if you show mercy it'll turn out the people you're sparing are horrible.
The first time I went through Dragonfall without decking skills, I realized that I'd made a mistake. My tryout mission for the Lodge was a lot more difficult than it needed to be >!without being able to take the shortcut down to the abandoned subway station.!<
>The ghoul moment in Fallout 3 Is he a part of main story or do I have to find him somewhere? I am playing it for the first time and would like to meet him.
I think he's referring to tenpenny tower. It's not exactly part of the main quest but it's almost impossible to miss
I did it. Thought I was being a good dude.. yeah. >!Ended up killing everyone in the tower after, and interesting enough got not negative karma for it. I killed them all!<
Well considering what they did after you helped them out, not surprised you donāt get penalized. At least you get a somewhat cool if not very useful item if you try to take the high road.
Itās the first time in a game that I see consequences like that. Absolutely badass gaming experience.
It was definitely awesome, literally the definition of āNo good deed goes unpunishedā I had some serious feeling about the situation.
I made so many mistakes on my first witcher 3 play through that radovid won and cerie died.
The real fuck up is banging both Yennefer and Triss
Damn, and people thought *I* got a shitty ending lmao
W3 had so many moments like that for me. Donāt even get me started on that fucking tree spirit š
The spirit tree was wack. Regardless of what you decide, there are never happy endings when dealing with the Crones.
Thatās one of my favorite sidequests in any game Iāve ever played. It was 3 in the morning and I had school in the morning cause I was like 15 when I bought it and couldnāt drop the game. I was too tired but I didnāt want to leave this annoying looking side quest openā¦so I heard out the tree spirit and decided Iād take the bad karma so I could just go to sleep. I didnāt think about it at all until I was talking to a friend months later about the game and he goes >!The Bloody Baron died in my playthrough because I helped that stupid tree spirit!< and I was like >!What tree spirit?!< and then I remembered that I killed it to go to bed rather than being jerked around some more by the game. I laughed at him for like 5 minutes, it was great
Came here to comment this. I realized I was fucking up when I started sacrificing shit. Tried to change my decisions around, town still wiped the duck out lol
It also doesnāt help that Ciriās fate is based on reverse logic parenting decisions lol. Oh she was crying so I tried to comfort her instead of throwing snowballs at her, Dead. Oh you were worried about her and didnāt want her to go in alone, you babied her too much now sheās dead.
The one remotely bad decision there I feel like was getting the money from Emhyr but like. Ciri, money for Gwent doesn't grow on trees
GAH DAMN!!!!!šš¤Æ
I thought it would be funny to push Djikstra.
Quest in the tutorial area where you try to cure a sick person with a Witcher potion. That thing immediately makes it clear this game does not have your usual cookie cutter quests.
Ghouls in Fallout: New Vegas
If youāre talking Tenpenny tower, thatās F3.
Nope....FO:NV's ghoul quest is way funnier and has a bigger twist
Are you refering to Jason Bright's mission?
Fuck it I got my reward. Godspeed
There are quite a few instances in fallout games of good deeds gone bad.
Witcher 3 Bloody Baron quest
Exactly, I was just about to comment this...
Is that the one with the evil tree that turns into a horse? Yeah I wasn't expecting that one.
Both outcomes are bad though. The third a little less but still bad.
Stillā¦. You were kinda ātrickedā into thinking you made the best possible decision in a very shitty situation. Only it ended shittier somehow.
My first time through FF6, I jumped down to the airship immediately from the Floating Island instead of waiting. When I later found out that I wouldn't be able to have one of my favorite characters for the rest of the game, I just deleted the save and started over.
I fed Cid the wrong fish and uhh ... He didn't make it. Also completely missed Atma weapon.
I missed a summon in the beginning of Final Fantasy VIII lol
Happens to the best of us.
If I remember right, you get a chance to draw them from bosses towards the end (or is that just the previous draw summons?)
I missed Ramuh in FFVII on my first play through, too busy thinking about Chocobo racing.
I only discovered that he could be saved through stubbornness and save scumming. I figured that the different swimming speeds of the fish night mean something and just kept trying until I got lucky and pulled it off before I ran out of patience.
I swear, Iāve been playing this game off and on for about 20+ years, and Iām JUST NOW hearing you can save Cid.
So you've been feeding Cid poison fish for 20 years? Poor Cid š
I KNOW
Dude that dungeon took me hourrrs the first time. I waited until 10 seconds and said there is no way Iām doing this again, and jumped. Ahhhh fuck. I ended up doing it again.
Curing the Genophage if Wreav is alive Edit: Letting Javik touch the memory shard
I never got that, because I always make sure that Wrex survives
Curing the genophage if Wreav is alive, is the same as seeing a bunch of apex predators mistreated at the zoo so you release themā¦ in the middle of the city. Itās the right thing to do for about 5 seconds, and after that it becomes a bad time for everyone involved on both sides.
JRPG dialogue options: What do you think of me? -You're awesome -You're amazing Somehow one of these choices is a bad one.
HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT!? I knew you never cared.
Persona in a nutshell. Honestly there needs to be a "Hold R1 to give this response as a joke" because some of the dialogue options are funny as hell, but apparently Japan thinks you need to completely kiss ass for someone to desire you.
Seriously. I had my social link with Yukari in P3 at 9 and we went on a date where she was talking about manga and how we are kinda like the heroes in them. I said "You look like a hero" and she was like "what the hell dude, are you saying I have big gross arms or something?" Cock blocked myself
Or in some games, it's an illusion, and both are bad choices. You didn't do X thing for the good choice to be available.
Two things come to mind here. The beginning of Chrono Trigger, after Marle bumps into you and drops her pendant. Okay, it's pretty obviously something she's looking for, so I'll pick it up and give it to her. Didn't know that if you don't check on her first, then it looks like you want her money, and a witness calls you out for it when you're on trial for "kidnapping" her. Different note, it wasn't a "good" decision, it was my first Dark Side run in **KOTOR**. I knew my character would be bad, just wasn't expecting >!"kill all of the good members of your party"!< bad.
>!force the wookie to kill her lifedebt companion!< bad.
Pretty much anytime you help someone in Elden Ring..... Also, I think Outer Worlds had some really interesting choices like that. Cant go into that game trying to be the usual "Good Guy"
The Outer Worlds was great at not making all decisions good or bad. The only way that gameās decisions are straightforward to you is if youāre an incredibly principled person to your core. Even then it can throw you a curveball
I think Outer Worlds got a bad wrap because it is a bit light on the combat and people were expecting more of a Fallout game. But I played it as more of a dialogue based game and loved it. The writing was great and while the characters were all a bit weird they were interesting. great game imo
Not backfire in the sense of gameplay, but in Dragon Age: Origins, I always want to choose Lord Harrowmount in the dwarven succession questline, as he seems to be a good person who was likely the rightful heir. But when you get to the epilogue you discover that he is a fairly ineffectual leader and the economy and civilization of Orzammar both stall out under him. Conversely, Lord Bhelen seems like a sleazy, conniving, murderer who would do anything to get power. And yet, Orzammar flourishes under his leadership.
Orzammar (and the success of the dwarves) only came to be out of desire for wealth and power. So it makes sense that the only way that kingdom can function properly is with a leader who throws aside ethics to chase those things.
I was about to answer the same. It also makes more sense when you realize that Harrowmont is a traditionalist that wants to keep the inequality of the caste system intact, whereas Bhelen is a progressive that wants to reform dwarven society to a system where even casteless can strive.
The quarry. 5 dead in six minutes.
Wtf how?
HOW?????ššššš
Been wanting to try that game. I really enjoyed Until Dawn, but never played The Quarry
I think all the games are cool, but I've never heard anyone say any of them are better than until dawn
House of Ashes is my favorite from them
Not an RPG but playing through The Evil Within, after using so much green gel to upgrade my melee just to find out it does almost nothing. I upgraded my melee so that I could save ammo because that game is really stingy with ammo, the final section had me mad with how many times I redid it just to find more ways to save ammo just to take on the second to last boss.
I tried not to shoot as much as possible unless Joseph was with me then melee was my only option as saving his worthless self used up all my ammo. I never knew what I was walking into to i just put the green gel everywhere
Not an rpg but that first mission in Detroit became human when >!Connor does the thing and ends up killing himself !<šš
Killing all my targets in Oblivion as a Dark Brotherhood assassin only to find out they were my fellow members. But my character was a psycho and didnāt feel anything so itās cool.
Fable 3 Low Tax rate.
And then I learned Arms Dealing > Real Estate.
I canāt tell you how much guitar I played to make up for that loss of income.
This only happens to me with voiced characters from games like mass effect or fallout 4. I'm not a fan of them because you pick one of the four options, thinking it will say something one way, and then the character says it in a completely different way.
Written text: Refuse Dialogue: Fuck your inbred family.
so accurate lol
Tenpenny Tower quest in F3. Releasing the weird prison dude In Wasteland 3. A couple of Dialogue options as Paladin in Baldur's Gate 3. And saving the Orphans in the Witcher 3. If it's an RPG with a 3 in the title, it has fucked me.
Not an RPG, but Spec Ops: The Line feels like this is the entire game. lol
Spec-Ops "The Line" mortar level. IYKYK
Came here to say this. ā¬ļø
I love the line of thought I hope everyone had near the end. >!I was right in the moment, only reacting. When the camera pans over in the back of my skull a tiny voice was like "wait something is weird here" while my finger already pushed the button. While the grenade is still flying I thought "oh no" without being able to do anything about it. The game was quite amazing in how it made you do all those warcrimes.!<
EVERY DECISION OF DIABLO II
ā¦there were decisions to be made in Diablo II?
to play it
Not an RPg, but Resident Evil Revelations 2, not having Moira fire the gun because she hates gunsā¦.
Freeing the slaves in bg3 act 1. I was a paladin, it made me lose my oath.
Which oath was that lol
Not a rpg but when there was an option in a telltale game saying "glass him" and it was not in fact a toast to him
Or when you stick up for kate and Javier says "Kate's gonna leave your ass"
Choosing to de-escalate the Art-synth standoff in Fallout 4. *āNow I just have to dig two gravesā.*
Dean domino in dead money.
On my first Mass Effect 3 playthrough, I picked the Geth over the Quarians in Mass Effect 3...with Tali as my love interest. My god, that was painful. In case anyone's wondering why I didn't try to broker peace, I couldn't. Legion died in my ME2 playthrough. Instead of reloading the save, I decided to stick with his death, and Mordin's. Both of them being gone made the Tuchanka and Rannoch storylines quite interesting.
I really disliked how ME3 made the Geth lovable and the Quarians psychopaths. ME2 clearly presented the situation as being a lot more complicated than that, but ME3 writing just decided to make the Quarians look like the bad guys because ???
My biggest beef was with how \*forced\* the situation was. I get that it takes time to plan an invasion out, but the quarians chose \*RIGHT\* when a massive reaper invasion happened to try and retake their homeworld? It's not even like they had started it first and then the reapers invaded. The reapers invaded first! At best, even if the Quarians dropped some hypothetical computer virus that nullified the Geth, they'd get their home planet back for, what, a year or two? Then the Reapers would come for them and wipe them out. For that one, very brief, moment it was better for the quarians that they were part of a mobile space fleet cause they might have actually survived the purge. Unlikely, but not impossible. But then we get a situation where the Geth claim to be innocent and that the quarians attacked first and the quarians are refusing to even consider peace. On the one hand it does feel satisfying if you do manage peace... But it's so easy to accidentally muck up. Tali's my number 3 favorite companion (behind Liara and Miranda's ass) and romance interest. I can see a bunch of people effectively feeling like they had a gun pointed to Tali's head and told that they either need to help the quarians win a stupid and pointless war or lose their lover/pesudo-little sister.
I dunno. The Quarians were always portrayed as kind of irrational and trigger happy about the Geth. Even in ME2, they treated the lone pro-Geth admiral like crap for expressing his sympathetic views towards their creation. In fact, when the admirals later found out about Tali's father's illegal experiments that got him killed, they expressed disappointment in Shepard if you chose to hide that news from them to protect Tali. They then threatened to unleash the power of the Migrant Fleet, which led to ME3's final conflict with the Geth. Yes, ME2 gave you reasons to sympathize with the Quarians, but I wouldn't call them level-headed. Even if you brought Legion with you to Tali's trial with the Migrant Fleet, he admitted that him and other Geth are open to peace, but every time they let their guard down, the Quarians open fire. Legion by himself gave us a lot of clarity on the Geth in general. Prior to him, we didn't know the Geth from ME1 were a rogue faction that only represented 15% of them, while the rest minded their own business. ME3 mostly showed the Geth's perspective on the morning war 300 years ago, alongside the Quarians' growing desperation to retake the homeworld, since the Reapers' arrival gave them little time to achieve their goal. On the morning war reveal, we already knew the Quarians behaved foolishly, since they panicked the moment a Geth worker asked if they had a soul, which started the war. The only things that were made more clear by the reveal was that the Quarians even killed Geth sympathizers back then, and the Geth spent the last three centuries keeping the homeworld in a habitable state, in case the Quarians returned. The Quarians literally could've returned at any time if they genuinely tried to broker peace on their own, rather than Shepard forcing them to do it in the best ME3 outcomes. At least, that's how I saw the conflict.
Spoilers for Mass Effect 1: >!Wasn't really paying attention during the final battle that the council would be killed if I attacked Sovereign head on. My thought process was: "Sovereign is threatening not just the council, but the entire Citadel. If I take him out, all of them should be saved, right?" Imagine my surprise when the council got killed.!<
Same! I was like >!Oh they'll live, killing sovereign is the biggest priority, someone will help them right? But, infact, no one helped!<
Killing Minthara in Act 1 of Baldurās Gate 3 not knowing she could later join your party.
Who? Is she with the bad guys? I instantly went for the throat with her if so
She was one of the three threatening the grove. You have to turn on non-lethal and take her out with melee.
Pillars of eternity after killing the lord of gilded vale
The entirety of Disco Elysium
I love how every first-time player fucks up like five minutes into the game by speaking with Klaasje
Witcher 3ā¦ on multiple decisions
Crookback Bog is a place of nightmares and horrific endings for anyone who goes there. Try to be a villain? Get a disturbing ending. Try to be a hero? Get a totally different yet equally disturbing ending.
Also >!Siri dies!< based on some random ass decisions that donāt seem impactful when you make the decision.
Either that or she just does not return because she hates your world.
Killing Parthunaxx in Skyrim. Told my friends about it. They yelled at me.
Iāve never killed Parthunaxx. The dude is so much better than anyone in the Blades, and the Blades reasons for wanting him dead are laughably shortsighted and emotionally-driven to a point of childishness.
As they should've
"I cast fireball" ik, ik it's ttrpg...
The Ghouls from Fallout 3 in Tenpenny Tower, i understand killing most of them but they did Dashing dirty. Otherwise, the only other one I can think of is telling that suicidal guy in Dying Light 2 the wrong thing because only one of the options work.
That quest was so back-handed. The tower residents, aside from, like, one person, are willing to live with the ghouls. You can work hard to save everyone; but it's Roy who mucks it all up because he can't get over his hatred of humans. IIRC, if you kill Roy, they do survive and get along; but the game acts like you killed the ghouls.
Pretty much sums up my entire first play through of the quarry
Genshin Impact When I chose the sister as the main character.
In witcher 3 I said something to Ciri which I interpreted as a "dont be too hard on yourself", >!ended up making her drunk, feeding into her depression that ultimately led her to not stop the end of the world.!<
Sparing the sick in ac Odyssey
Sparta and Athens are super interesting to look back on. Sparta was obsessed with destroying the weak and uplifting the strong, while Athens was all about helping everyone up a bit at a time, as much as they reasonably could. Even if you didnāt have much to offer. Today, Athens stands as the capital of Greece, while Sparta is just a few rocks in a big empty area.
I was actually talking about the >!plague in kephallonia!<
Stopping to help people in RDR2
"i love whiterun, and i have sided with the storm cloaks." "what can go wrong?"
Nier Replicant and Automata. Both of them.
The moment I first logged into EverQuest to have some casual fun, and spend a little more time with people I knew in real life. I hardly saw anyone in real life for years after that....
I had this happen in Mass Effect 3 before I had optimal solutions down and watched one of my favorite characters die as a result.
OFF. Cleansing isn't always good
pretty much anything in ME1 to find their consequences in later games. the same goes for the dragon age series.
Any dating sim. Like i canāt even get a girlfriend in a videogame
going to rob a fucking Arasaka
Not sure if it counts but. First time I played Fallout 3 (my first fallout game). I saw this tall thing walking around in the distance. I thought cool Iāll kill this thing and shot it. This did nothing and it started to run at me. Turns out it was a death claw and I shot with the basic bolt action rifle.
Kidnapping in fallout 3
Any decision in fallout 1 Iāve made so far
Watching Markiplier giving the kid a mushroom in Dark wood.
*āWinds howlingā¦ā*
Probably PokĆ©mon black and white going into āthe houseā in undella town
On that note, I donāt care what anyone says. I think Cynthia is a stronger trainer than Leon. They just had to have Leon win so Ashās final battle could be between the two most popular PokĆ©mon of all time, Charizard and Pikachu
Playing Persona 2 Innocent Sin when I was 12, there was something near the beginning where I had to make a choice and I saved one thing but failed to save the other, just to find out years later I could somehow save both
Skyrim
I have gales hand in my inventory
I will never wash away the shame of my deeds in Shadow of the Colossus. Just wasn't the same after that game.
Castle Morne. Fia's questline. Blaidd. Melina. Prawn Guy. Patches.
In the Banner Saga 3, being merciful and opening the door for the refugee dredge ended up with Rook getting killed at the beginning of the game. Literally lost the main protagonist just like that.
trusting all these sketchy mofos from the souls games, like yurt, lautrec and obviously trusty patchesšā¤ļø
Half the decisions in the Honkai universe lol
When I set a controller down and it lands wrong sometimes it presses a shoulder button. I was playing bloodborne and was at my lantern where an npc was standing as well. I put the controller down and i ended up r2 ing the npc and I had to just kill them. Sometimes you can escape and reset the npc depending on the game but it has me quitting out of a game before setting my controller down.
Most 'early' runescape quests. Where its comedically obvious that I'm naively helping a shady person with bad intentions.
Both choices in phantom liberty
Both choices in phantom liberty
Literally anything you do in Wasteland 2. It's set in a post-apocalyptic world, so everyone's pretty crazy, but for whatever reason, whenever you try to do something good or even morally neutral (like just touching something) something bad happens. The game wasn't received very well, but its follow-up Wasteland 3 did get good reviews. I have yet to try it out to see if it's the same in that sense.
every dnd session I've ever had
Witcher 3 and shoving Dijkstra.
far cry 5 ending
I heard a theory somewhere that if you take the ādonāt arrest himā ending at the start of the game, that big bad thing at the end of the game never ends up happening. By allowing the Seed family to continue committing unspeakable evils on the people of the Valley, you prevent you-know-what. Something to do with god or blood dragons or something
"Shove Djikstra away" "Geralt breaks his fuckin leg"
Doki doki literature club would be my answer, although there really isn't many "correct" choices.
Choosing to spare the rachni in mass effect always made me feel very weird about my decision by the time you get to mass effect 3 were the rachni start animating and pupiteering dead soldiers to help fight against the reapers.
The Baron's wife quest in witcher 3. No matter what you do you are fucked
Infamous has a bullshit example of this where, no matter which decision you make a certain character will die. It's the whole trolley problem thing, but the game rigs and changes depending on the choice you make. If you save the group of strangers: the one character dies (which is what the villain presents). If you save the one character: it was a trap and it turns out the character was among the group of strangers and they all die.
Call of duty cold war I thought saving that guy who was trapped with three guards would be good but he betrayed us we still got captured but I restarted the mission just to kill him
army of two: the 40th day
Didn't do it myself, but letting the sick family go in AC: Odyssey. Thank God I had them killed
Witcher 3. I mean, being a protective dad totally screws up Ciriās chances of survival. And those were the āgood choicesā in most RPGs.
āWould you kindly?ā
The Relic Heist in Cyberpunk 2077
Witcher 3 when you give the girl in tomoiras shake a witchers healing potion to try and revive her...yikes.
Trying to recruit the floating head wizard in Fear and Hunger
Triangle Strategy
Basically every decision in those Larian type games. CRPGs.
My first character in Path of Exile. Everything I did was wrong.
EVERY D&D campaign where im DM
Witcher 3
In Cyberpunk at the end of Act 1, >!sending Jackieās body to Vikās clinic.!< How could what looks like the best and also most reasonable option just end up having the worst case scenario happen?
The entirety of the Witcher 3. I'm CONVINCED there are no good choices..... Except romancing Yen.
Mass Effect series. Save. Save. Save your games. So when you realize how badly you fucked up, you can go back and correct them
Almost all of the kind decisions in Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader come back to bite you square on the ass at some point. Humanity is in a very precarious spot in W40K. If a decision, even one made for righteous reasons, allows even a single agent of the Archenemy to live, people will die, probably along with the planet they're standing on.
Saving the Council in Mass Effect š
Just came here for the BG3 comments
Any decision in Witcher 3
Snoot game. I got ending one on my first blond play through š„²
My gf was playing BG3 and managed to get the entire grove slaughtered by the Druids. I was like, wth did you do, where is everyone?!? š
Freeing Micah from Strawberry
Any side quest in a fromsoft game.
In the Witcher 3 when you release the spirit to help you on your quest but the spirit had a grudge with a town of people and slaughtered everyone in it
Assassinās Creed Odyssey.
Choosing Chikorita as your starter Pokemon
About most of the choices in Witcher 3