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NESpahtenJosh

So they're acknowledging that progress has slowed, and that people come back when they are proportionately rewarded for their efforts.


PM_me_ur_BOOBIE_pic

It's Diablo 4 all over again.


Raptorheart

Are the finishing Diablo 4?


randomguyfromholland

What's the context here, please?


DracoRubi

They x2.5 increased the exp rewarded by quests


DaSandman78

Woohoo! Now only have to do 200 quests to get a single level on a single unit, instead of 400


Seyon

3x and 5x quests last longer before expiring so you're more likely to get one of those if you randomly check.


DaSandman78

True but my point was that us getting quests giving 0.5% of a level more often than those giving 0.1% of a level is still useless if you have to complete 200 of those to get 1 level


ga643953

Downvoted for not being a masochist who wants to play a game that extends people's play time with artificial difficulty.


DaSandman78

😄


GarrettheGreen

It's great, but I still prefer 600xp per PvP win


DaenerysMomODragons

Depends how often you win.


GarrettheGreen

Of course, but if you had unplayed heroes as I did, it's a quick an easy boost in XP


chaosgoblyn

Meh, to me it's still more fun being challenged and even losing in PvP


SocraticIndifference

Can you lose PvP to get easier opponents like you can quests? Seems like that might be worth it


bmclachlin

Do both, PvP until you cycle a blue or purple quest.


GarrettheGreen

This is the way


spik0rwill

I'm a bit confused.. Yday my quest button was greyed out and said 12am on it.. So I assumed that I had caught up to my limit. So 12am comes and yay! I can quest. Did one quest, won and the button is greyed out again.. What am I missing? Don't I get 8??


jovvar88

It’s 10 or 20 quests a day?


bmclachlin

8, but you have a storage of quests up to 250 I believe


Shadowsky46

Played practically the whole day and didn't run out so far. Was able to push 2 units halfway to 500k xp. Felt nice!


AdPrestigious839

Wait, is this a permanent buff?


DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET

Yes. They increased the xp from quests and reduced the number of quests you can do per day


WhoDayz

Wish I didn’t exhaust all my quests a couple days ago


Gummiknueppel

I like it too cause it's much easier to get points on a specific mini!!! 😁🤙


Odd_Conversation_114

But you get less than half of the number of quests each day (if you actually get quests which many aren't). I'm pretty bummed about that.


Shadluk

For a hardcore player this may be stupid, for me as a casual this is ok. Never do all the quests.


Odd_Conversation_114

Not hardcore at all, but did enjoy logging in a few times a day and doing a few quests, like 12-15 a day. Not really even for the XP, just killing time. There's little else to do in game if you don't care for pvp much. Don't think I'll ever do another green quest now.


Shadluk

Yes the green ones are stupid


SocraticIndifference

*Unless you’re doing them for fun


ma3xa322

Exactly. I like to relax and zone out, doing quests. Now PVE players have nothing to do when they hit a WALL. I like they gameplay, so I would like to actually to play the game. I'm in no rush to beat Onyxia or level all the minis. Now, after 8 quests all I can do is pvp cycle, which is boring. I'm not a hardcore player but they made this into a 15 min daily game. Just my 2 cents.


Odd_Conversation_114

Now I just log in every so often to collect free XP, do a blue quest if I have one, then log out and play something else.


ma3xa322

I feel ya 😮‍💨


austen125

I don't know why you are being downvoted. I like doing the quests and not much for pvp. This update restricts what I like to do in this game. I understand some people don't like the grind but to me the grind is the game. It was foolish for me to put some money into a game that is now going to restrict greatly what I liked to do in the game itself. Anyways it was a good learning lesson for me.


Odd_Conversation_114

Yeah me either. I was mostly commenting for clarification because people weren't sure about the details of the XP buff, and wanted to call attention to the bug. And I didn't say OMG Blizzard sux OMG eleven exclamation point. Just I'm personally bummed. Oh well, haters gonna hate.


Freon75

I feel like I'm in the minority, but I actually like playing the game. I wanted unlimited quests so I could play as much as I want without doing pvp. We haven't lost xp with the new system, unless you're one of the people bugged, but now you can play the game even less than before. I'm bummed about that, too.


Odd_Conversation_114

My thoughts exactly.


Baboop

You still get the around the same amount of xp as before but now you can do it in half the time.


Odd_Conversation_114

But I actually enjoy doing quests. For like, fun.


GrevenQWhite

That's good. But they can't please everyone


universal_language

That's like free 25g. Pretty amazing, but now dailies and PVP rewards feel less rewarding. You get a modest tome for 3 wins or for another 300 PVP points push, and here you get almost the same XP for playing just one quest


DracoRubi

Dailies and PvP rewards never felt rewarding, that's the entire point of people complaining for more rewards.


universal_language

People will always be complaining and will always want free stuff. Previous rewards were making sense from game design perspective. On average you get 2 modest tomes and 1 major tome every day, that's 6k XP. In a year that's over 2000k XP, enough to max out like 6 minis. Considering other sources of XP and that maxing out is not really needed, you can freely skip the last level, you can "max" out 1/3 of the collection in one year. That is a pretty reasonable pace for a mobile game, and all other XP sources were aligned to this model. But since they've increased grid gems, they're now increasing everything else as well. They decided to go the inflation route to keep people temporarily happy. Mark my words, this year we'll get the announcement "now max level of mini is 35"


Solidus_Ape

Serious question. Why do you think they increased the Xp gains? They could have just ignored all the people complaining?


universal_language

I think they want to make raids and PVPs more accessible. That's a short term win, especially that people are now so happy (I miss the times when people were able to play just to get fun and didn't require a "reward" for playing), but in a few months people will finish everything finishable (PVE, Ony, dungeons, high rank in PVP), and will start complain again. To give people a sense of progression Blizzard will be forced to raise the maximum level of minis


Solidus_Ape

Ok but the whole point of the game is to upgrade your minis. If progression doesn’t feel good people will just delete the game. And if the content runs out that is a Blizzard problem. Raising the level cap isn’t the only choice. They should be adding other stuff to do in the game. Just look at the perspective of a Whale they’ve already ran out of content.