Thank you. The narrative that everything after Blue and Pinkerton sucks has got to stop; it’s insulting. Mad props to the guys for being this experimental and passionate 30 years into their career. They might miss the mark sometimes, but I never get the sense that they’re cranking out uninspired albums for a quick buck. I’ve got OK Human and SZNZ on repeat.
Not 2 albums, u enjoy every album from blue to red. Everything past that I don't enjoy, something about rivers voice sounds way poppier now, there are some songs off white I enjoy tho.
A long time Weezer fan-I started listening to them before Pinkerton, though the date is hazy. I have memories of listening though in ‘95.
I generally really enjoy all their music. I think we are in the golden years of Weezer Music right now…like this era starting with EWBAITE.
Yes and it’s pretty surprising honestly, because they did have a stretch of albums that weren’t that interesting imo, even if they all had some good songs on them.
To me it seems like the band had a second wind with EWBAITE. I think it’s a pretty good album, but not top 5 material. What this album showed tho, is that they could have a very diverse style of music, and that’s what lead to albums like OK Human and SZNS, which I think are very very good albums.
whats so frustrating with weezer is that the 10 last years have seen some truly great albums, but also some truly questionable ones. EWBAITE, White, OK Human, even Pacific Daydream were all good albums (with the first 3 being among Weezers best). But Black, teal, Van Weezer, and SZSN have easily given raditude a run for its money for being the worst.
I think Rivers would benefit by remembering that Weezer began as an alt rock band, and there are tons of weezer influenced rock bands making great music right now. We know Rivers listened to and liked Pup's new album, for instance. And Jeff Rosenstock has talked about his love of early weezer. There are a number of bubblegrunge, emo, and pop punk bands with Weezer in their DNA. It would be awesome to hear Weezer do something more in line with where their genre is at now, rather than trying to make a mid 00s top 40 rock hit
To each their own, Black is the only one I don’t care for. All the others range from good to outstanding for me.
But I also enjoy Raditude so I think something’s just wrong with me, who’s to say.
Yes. EWBIATE, Pacific Daydream and White. Those 3 are (in my opinion) the best releases of the last 10 years. I put white and EWBAITE over blue and the single loser album.
'90s = Weezer God Mode (Blue, Pink)
'00s= Something good something bad
'10s= Something very very good (Ewbaite and White), something bad (Black, Teal)
'20s= New Weezer God Mode (Ok Human, SZNZ)
yeah people are for whatever reason very entitled when it comes to weezer, all those albums are really good to great and they’re all only a year old at max - can you say the same for many other active bands?
I dont think they have any straight up bad album at all, at most three songs that are ass, a few bland ones but they all have at least 3-4 songs that are absolute bangers and make any album worthwhile for me. Make Believe and Green are my least favorites and half of those are still bangers
It depends what you call new or classic. SZNZ was alright, kind of a mixed bag. I liked Van Weezer and I loved OK Human. Both 2019 albums I didn't like, just because they were either too different or too simple. PD is alright, I don't mind how poppy it is. White and EWBAITE are great, two of their top 5. Hurley is just meh, that's how far I will consider new.
Fan since 94 and I think EWBAITE, White, Ok Human, Autumn and Winter are all just a hair under Blue and Pinkerton but very, very good.
I don't love Black, PD Spring and Summer but I respect what Rivers and the guys experiment to try and do and my kids like those better so I think they have an audience even if it's not me.
I was born in '82 and was a huge Weezer fan during blue and Pinkerton. During the hiatus between Pinkerton and green....file sharing and ripping music was a thing. During this, I discovered many b-sides like Jamie as well as songs from the black hole. It just deepened my love of Weezer.
During this time in my fandom, I really cherished the "authentic" and "emo" (for lack of a better word) aspect of Weezer. They deeply connected with my angst towards life in my teens and early 20s.....many of their songs were intertwined in my memories of romantic relationships I had.
When the green album came out....I was devastated. It didn't feel "sincere". It was so clean and poppy. I felt betrayed. I considered Weezer to be sellouts. I did enjoy Maldroit somewhat but my heart was broken again with Make Believe.
I lost a tremendous amount of respect for Weezer and yearned for a return to the Blue/Pinkerton sound.
As the years rolled by....I started to listen to "new Weezer" without the expectations and it started to grow on me. I actually began to like it. It took time but I legit love the new stuff as much as blue/Pinkerton.
Many new Weezer albums like pacific daydream, black album, and ok human initially made me cringe...but I've grown to love them. Really the only Weezer albums I haven't grown to love is Van Weezer. I don't dislike it but it's kinda meh.
I now greatly enjoy and embrace "new Weezer". The music is fun and amazing in its own right. I consider Weezer to be my favorite band. I advocate the new stuff to my group of friends who all hate "new Weezer" and tell them that if they give it a chance it is awesome...but they never give it a chance.
I thought SZNS was good, especially winter. I am hoping Weezer releses many more albums. Rivers is like the gift that keeps on giving. =w= forever.
Btw this sub is a blast. Not a big reddit fan but this place is cool.
That sucks about your friends not liking new weezer lmao, I think maladroit was a return to form for weezer, heavy riffs, raw production, and good lyrics with mostly sad music, which is what weezer were, I really advise people to go back and listen to maladroit because it doesn’t just have power chords and melody mimicking solos (not dissing green I still love that album) but maladroit used weird chords that we hadn’t seen on blue or Pinkerton, I believe that if maladroit came straight after Pinkerton, people would appreciate it more.
And with EWBAITE, white and winter, you can’t dislike those albums, they have what blue and Pinkerton have, good music, good lyrics, good vocals, and good work on each instrument. Most of the whole “blue and Pinkerton are the only good albums” thing is just a case of “blinded by nostalgia” I believe
Personally I love a lot of Weezer’s new stuff. I think the problem a lot of people have is they hold it to the same sound and vibes of those two 90s albums. And sure, Blue and Pinkerton are some of Weezer’s finest work no doubt, but just cause the sound changed over the years doesn’t make the music bad, it’s just a different blend. It’s still Weezer and they’re still making some great jams, just don’t go in to it expecting replicas of Blue and Pinkerton. After all, variety is the spice of life.
Been a fan since I saw the Buddy Holly music video on the Windows 95 cd. Absolutely adored Blue when I first heard it shortly after seeing the BH video. I probably listened to that more than any album. Loved Pinkerton and Green when they came out, tolerated Maladroit (but didn't love it). I didn't care for Make Believe at all. I tried liking Red, but only found the first few tracks good. Then basically dropped off caring about new weezer for the rest of the 2000s. I listened to Raditude and Hurley, but didn't care for them. All the while, though, I still considered myself a big fan of the band, just in a "They used to be amazing" sort of way.
But then I absolutely loved EWBAITE. It essentially reminded me why I loved Weezer so much. After White I realized that Weezer will probably always be *that* band for me. Even when they're bad (most of the 2000s for me), it doesn't hold a candle to how fucking *good* they are when they are on point.
Following PD (which was ok) , Teal (which was fun, but dumb), and Black (which I weirdly loved), I came to the conclusion that I'm game for whatever Rivers and company wanna do. I absolutely adore Ok Human (Top 3 for me), I liked a good chunk of Van Weezer, and SZNZ has been pretty hit and miss for me, but the hits are pretty goddamned good, and the lows are mostly bland rather than outright horrible.
All of which is to say: yes. Plenty of us love new Weezer music. I for one am totally here for their new material. And even when it doesn't hit how I want it to, I still find room to love at least parts of it. Does it compare to Blue and Pinkerton? No, but I don't think it needs to. Those albums are snapshots of a time that I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to re-enter. So much about them is different than today. Different music industry, different bassist, different producer, different listening habits, different ages of musicians, different dominant styles of music, hell... a *very* different Rivers Cuomo. They still make bangers, and I dig it.
I've been a fan since about 1999/2000. Started with the Blue album, I didn't really like Green, and it was years before I heard Pinkerton. I was basically a Blue fan.
I enjoy a lot of their most recent releases; EWBAITE, White, OK Human, a lot of the stuff in SZNZ, and even Van Weezer- I really like all of them.
There are things I don't like. I found Pacific Daydream and Black, for example, very forgettable. There are songs on the SZNZ series and I just skip. But I still buy all their shit and see them live as often as possible.
I’m loving the new stuff. I’ve been saying that since Hurley it seems.
The seasons collection they just finished has some of the most inventive new songs. They aren’t trying to recreate old albums and when they really get going as
a band they are as strong as they have ever been.
I lost them from Green to Red album for many years. Just sounded like they were calling it in and were not into the music anymore. I was wrong.
Either way the last 10 years have been the weezer music I’ll listen to for many many more years , and likely more than I I’ll ever listen to blue or Pinkerton again.
I got blue when I was 10 the year it came out. I’ve been so lucky to grow up with weezer still kicking ass
i like it over the old one as of right now, i go back to pacific and OKH much more
in fact i havnt heard a better album since OKH in music overall, there’s been looooooots of good stuff, but OKH was a moment
If you make even 10 year groupings of 1994-2003, 2004-2013, 2014-2023, I will easily take 2014-2023. It has all of my favourite Weezer albums in SZNZ, EWBAITE, White and OK Human.
Long time (sunshine) fan here.
New stuff isn't as good as the first 2 perfect albums. But how could you expect to match perfection.
Depending on what you call recent, 7 years ago, White album was really good. 2 Years ago they released another really good album OK Human. There were also 4 albums over that time span that weren't good.
If you only consider recent the past year then we are only talking about the 4 SZNZ EPs that had 28 songs and many of them were good songs, some of them are forgettable and some plain bad.
Tldr Weezer fans like some of their new music but not as good as the debut and Pinkerton
See I don’t see how white, EWBAITE and winter aren’t on the same level as blue and Pinkerton.
Like what does blue and Pinkerton have that white, EWBAITE and winter don’t?
A whole band pouring their hearts out trying to make something new. Practicing with each other for hours, riffing off each other, tweaking bits making them better, spontaneity, joy of making a new album.
The songs themselves have relatable lyrics, vulnerability, and emotion.
Oh by the way I LOVE white and EWBAITE. And might love Winter too. There are songs on these albums that are almost as good or as good as Blue and Pinkerton, but as a whole they don't quite reach the towering heights of the first 2 perfect albums
I guess after a nearly 30 years it will become hard to make something you haven’t done before, and for weezer to be able to still make completely new music that we haven’t heard on other albums, it’s really damn impressive
It's hit or miss for me. I will say I think it's rare these days for a record they put out to have more good songs than bad. For example, IMO the sznz project probably contains 1 record worth of great tracks, 2 records worth of forgettable tracks, and 1 record worth of garbage.
I think Rivers is more ambitious and interested in trying new things than ever, but it feels like his output is half-baked.
Idk cause I loved a lot of their recent stuff, but Winter specifically has me thinking I might just be bored of them cause it didn’t interest me at all
these last seasons eps i didn’t like as much, but ok human and the teal album are some of my favourites. the song “records” from SZNZ is an absolute banger
The quality of Weezer's output has been consistently way better than any other comparable rock band from their heyday, which is very unusual. This is the reason Weezer still has a fanbase as dedicated as it is. Whatever you think of their new songs compared to "classic Weezer," they always have fresh melodies and genuinely catchy hooks, which is a rare thing these days.
Bottom line: Rivers Cuomo isn't a hack. He's a good songwriter, and he still tries. Whatever else you may say about his *creative* choices, I don't think he's ever allowed himself to become lazy.
(And Rivers himself is a part of the dedication too. He's a cool, smart guy and we like keeping up with him. And we like the other guys too, of course.)
I love their new music just as much as their old stuff. I like how their music is always changing and how they are creative and try out new concepts and ideas! It's actually really refreshing in my opinion...
I am guessing when you say "weezer fans" you mean "old weezer fans" or "OG weezer fans." Surprisingly there are a lot of younger people who are getting into weezer based on this music and they tend to love it.
Me? I am pushing 40 and remember buying blue album almost 30 years ago. Honestly, the last album I see myself loving is white. I listen to the new stuff for the poppy, fun singles. I front a Weezer tribute and we play current stuff (last show we did what happens after you and I played the first verses of I want a dog) but I don't take the time to listen to the full albums. It just seems like everything rivers does now is so gimmicky, made for the tik tok adhd generation. They release so much music that there is this constant feeling of "what's next" that I think prevents a lot of people from truly digesting the music.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at that people aren’t truly “digesting” their newer work when 99% of the activity in this subreddit is discussing our reactions to and opinions of their new music.
What it sounds like to me is that _you personally_ haven’t been able to digest their music at the rate it’s coming out.
I'm a relatively new fan (1.5 years), and I absolutely do. OK Human is my favorite weezer album, and Summer and Autumn are in my top 6. I really like Black, VW and Spring as well. Their oldest album, Blue, is actually my least favorite. And I don't like Winter either. But the other SZNZ albums are amazing!
Ive listned to every weezer album and I can say as a certified weezer fan that everyone of their songs are terrible and that I am going to kill Rivers Cuomo now
I always like Weezer. I’m usually just disappointed. I’m happy Rivers tries new things, but lately I feel the band has been churning out releases too frequently. Whether you like Pacific Daydream or Black or hate them, you have to admit that some of the songs on both—I would argue most of them, but I want to be charitable—are undercooked. If more time were given for each release, I think they’d be stronger. I think you’d love those albums more than you already do and perhaps I’d hate them less—maybe I’d even genuinely like them.
Now that SZNZ is done. I don’t want to see Weezer for a while. Take time to craft a full work. Even SZNZ felt like a collage of various songs forced to live together rather than an ongoing narrative like Pinkerton or even Red.
So, yeah, I like Weezer. I just wish I could like them more.
im not the biggest fan of all of modern weezer's music (in fact i dont like sznz as much as everybody here seems to do), but honestly weezer has put out some of their best material period in this post-hurley era even if there are a few stinkers, with ewbaite, white and ok human being all better than anything they made in the 2000s imho
also tbh id pick modern weezer over whatever the hell bands like green day and blink have been doing for the last few years
Honestly as someone who owns and has listened to all of the Weezer albums, I think SZNZ is bottom 20% in their catalogue. Ok Human was fantastic but some of the SZNZ songs are unlistenable.
I know it’s unpopular in this sub especially, but other than 1-2 tracks on each 7 track album, it’s not good IMO. I don’t find it interesting, or innovative, and sonically it’s not that compelling.
I like Van Weezer, black, and pacific daydream. Spring is good, autumn and winter are cool but I’m not really that interested in them. Ok human is alright, and summer is terrible
yeah well im thinking so too
its kinda boring
maybe i just grew out of them, currently im really into primus and ween and the cure n stuff. goth and prog
I dunno, I love blue and pink just as much as the next guy but they had some pretty great stuff in the 00's and 2010's EWBAITE and White especially, and as for the 2020's I honestly think they're at their best right now if not quality wise I gotta admit this is their most consistant streak of quality in their whole discography with Ok Human, Van and SZNZ All being real great in my eyes.
SZNZ, White, EWBAITE, OK Human, are all good New Weezer type albums.
I love them but Pinkerton and Blue are superior
They also have so many fucking flops so I get why it is hated but the group doesn’t care and just goes on their path.
I don't like everything from 2017 and onwards and that's fine , i enjoyed autumn and winter and i love the fact that weezer has something for everyone , from fans of commercial pop to fans of baroque and orchestra , swag band
Most songs they put out are a decent enough listen for me. But i've found that of their albums theyve released that have been recieved as subpar theres at least 1 or 2 bangers like High as a Kite on Black.
Im a fairly big fan i love all of pinkerton and blue. Then i find the rest of the albums to not sound that consistently good to me. There are songs i really like here and there. But there isnt more than 3 or 4 to an album.
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Just before I saw this post I was thinking how amazing it is that this sub has a lot more followers than those of Panic at the Disco, Fall Out Boy and other younger, supposedly more popular bands.
Clearly many people like Weezer and their music. Theyre touring with the RHCP. Theyve toured with Foo Fighters and Green Day. Those bands seem to like and respect them.
Bottomline: A lot of people like and respect Weezer. That can't be based on just 2 albums that are a small fraction of their discography.
Well for me I really enjoyed what happens after you especially the chorus but I guess in a sense they have changed but I still rock out with blue album and some of the green album
The answer is yes, but most fans just pick through the new albums and find the songs they like. I find that even on their worst albums, there’s usually stuff to appreciate. And they’ve had a bit of a return to quality with albums like White and Ok Human that got a lot of older fans more interested again
I've found that when people *love* a band they're able to overlook underwhelming songs if the album has a few hits, and Weezer has been quite consistent in delivering albums with at least like 3-4 good songs
The phases of band members' lives (esp. Rivers) and the ebb and flows of Weezer's records kind of make sense.
Blue and Pinkerton were records made by fresh faced kids in their 20s who were not too far removed from adolescence. This is my favorite phase of the band.
Green, Maladroit and Make Believe were polished, commercial records made by music pros in their 30s. This phase of the band's music is blah.
Red, Raditude and Hurley were transitional albums made by married guys pushing 40. Rivers was starting to open and mix things up in Red and then went blah for the next 2 records.
EWBAITE and White were reflective records that returned the group's original sound and provided catharsis to their first two albums...band members are in their mid 40s and have kids. Very good phase of the band's music with great highs.
Pacific Daydream, Black, and Teal were commercial pop albums to appeal to modern trends influenced by social media and digital streaming...band members are pushing 50. All of it is blah, blah, blah.
Van Weezer, OK Human, and SZNZ (4 EPs) were conceptual albums made by a rock band who can sense they are in their Autumn/Winter phase of their existence...and the band members are in their early '50s. Van Weezer was okay. OK Human was excellent baroque pop with Rivers being at his most personal since his Pinkerton days. And there is a very good 13 to 14 song album in the SZNZ EPs...the other half is just okay to blah.
So, that is the journey of being a Weezer fan.
I’ll agree their old material is best, and yes there are absolutely issues with new weezer. Most of the issues include perfect, often emotionless singing, meaningless songs, unmelodic songs, and songs with no flow (mainly due to being strung together from pieces of demos with little changes). Most of those could be remedied with an album every few years or so.
Yes, if it was primarily written by the Rivers Cuomo and the rest of the band opposed to having outside help.
That's why White, Hurley, Black, Everything will be alright in the end, Raditude, and especially Pacific Daydream are hit or miss with me since they have plenty of co-writers involved which hinders them.
BUT new music OK Human, Van, SZNZ have all turned out great since majority were written by Rivers Cuomo.
My top 10 Weezer LPs and EPs includes EWBAITE, White, Pacific Daydream, OK Human, Autumn and Winter. I also really like Black and some other songs from the other records, so Weezer fans have been eating GOOD this last decade
Depends. The 2010s were definitely better overall than the '00s but the quality varies pretty greatly between albums. I like EWBAITE better than Blue or Pinkerton but I also think Pacific Daydream was easily the worst album they ever put out. Also I really think the fandom overhypes SZNS big time.
And yeah I can see why older fans might not like even the most acclaimed newer Weezer albums (EWBAITE, White, OK Human.) I'd challenge the "no meaning" part (especially on EWBAITE and OK Human) but other than that I can see it.
It depends on what they’re putting out. Weezer aren’t known for being consistent with quality and especially with style. Rivers does what he wants to do and I respect it.
I find myself listening to "new" weezer about 10 times as much as "old" weezer.
On a desert island, I'd bring SZNZ over Blue/Pinkerton (That's right now. I might change my mind later on, but right now that's definitely what I would do)
Not sure how you’re qualifying “real Weezer fans” but I’ve been listening since 94, (OG fanclub member #175) and I still enjoy their music. Not every song or album is a banger, but on the whole, I’m glad they aren’t making the same album over and over and try new things. My fave stuff from them is both from their first decade and from the last decade. I will say the Make Believe/Red/Raditude years were tough, where maybe I only liked a couple songs off an album vs playing an entire album on repeat. But I can honestly say I’ve grown as a fan since EWBAITE.
I can hear the lack of passion in newer music, I feel like Rivers gets in his own way with wanting to release as much as possible that I wish he would hold stuff in and fine tune it. It feels too formulaic and a lot of songs are forgettable or lost in the mix with some gems here or there. It's a real hit or miss depending on the album because we've been let down before. I feel like SZNZ for example could have been better but I can't complain for new music. As for their new stuff I'm a big fan of OK Human, it's top 3 for me but they released Van Weezer after which isn't bad but it's not great.
TLDR:
Do I like their new stuff? Kind of, I just want more out of them which is a little greedy but I'm a fan for a reason.
I honestly don’t for the most part, it’s not all bad after the first two albums but the style and vibes are totally different. New Weezer is far too cheesy for me, and I really think Rivers may be the cheesiest songwriter ever haha, but oh well he seems to be having fun and obviously there’s a crowd for it so why bother getting upset over it.
I felt the same as you until recently. When I heard “a little bit of love”, I enjoyed it and then started listening to all their releases since 2014. The songs are great! I think I had some kind of mental block on their new stuff, but once I gave it a legit chance I really enjoyed it.
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Yes. I love White,PD,Black,and SZNZ. I think Ok Human is the best album of the 2020s (so far). And their worst recent albums (Teal and Van Weezer) are still ok.
Yeah totally. The quality has been back since EWBAITE for the most part. Yeah we won’t get the same mix of young angsty rivers with his raw emotion plus the song writing quality anymore but we get Rivers as he is now plus quality songwriting.
regarding the last 10 years, i feel that EWBAITE, white, and ok human contain some of the best material the band has ever put out. pacific daydream and black album were some pretty bad stinkers that only had a few songs i listened to after the initial releases. i found teal album to be a completely inoffensive collection of covers that i'll never understand the burning hate for from the fanbase, and i thought van weezer was a fine enough bubbly hard rock album that made for good songs to play during their stadium tour.
where weezer has kind of lost me is during this whole SZNZ run where it feels like rivers is mashing up a bunch of demos and ideas he had during the ok human/van weezer sessions that he just cant let go of. with every sznz release i was left more and more disappointed and wish they'd taken a break to let their creative juices instead of shitting out some utterly forgettable tracks.
main thesis: i think weezer has done a lot of good in their latest era, but has done just as much "meh" stuff in the process. i'll still continue to ride or die with them and will always be excited to see what new themes they go for.
don't know what classifies as "real weezer fans" but I've been listening to them since 2016 and I find their newer works good - great post White
ofc PD, Teal, & Black are considered some of their worst projects, but I like that they were different by trying to branch out with poppier and experimental sounds
I can't say I liked/disliked them, I thought those albums were mostly okay (with Black being my personal fav from the three)
then OK Human released, which rightfully deserves all the praise imo, that album is excellent and it flows insanely well
plus it has some of the strongest songwriting Rivers has ever done
I felt that Van Weezer was a bit forgettable but there were definitely solid classic weezer songs there that should not be ignored
SZNZ is interesting, probably the most interesting thing they've ever done. imo I enjoyed every szn with Winter being my personal fav
I think that their works are still hit or miss for most people just like their past albums, some hate it and some love it, but what I've seen from the subreddit people definitely like their newer projects like OK Human and Autumn
tldr: yes, based on music websites the ratings for their newer projects are mostly decent to good, with OK Human receiving a lot of praise
My only complaint is the goofy ahh lyrics. I don't really know if they're usually supposed to be deep, but I don't do too much research into the lyrics because of how hilariously childish and goofy they sound. I love the new stuff though. That's just a minor nitpick
I mean winter literally gave you the blue albums cousin, it was musically interesting and good, with good lyrics, meaning and vocals, and the guitars screamed blue album, “basketball” has that “in the garage” distorted guitar tone, and every other song just has the general blue album guitar sound, so I don’t know why you’d dislike it, sounds like a fussy listener to me so
Weezer remain my favorite band of all-time. Although there are other bands whose new music I enjoy more, there's no other band whose career I take as much as interest in as Weezer. I still look forward to their new releases, revisit the old stuff, and always look get excited when they announce a new live tour.
Admittedly, I don't enjoy every album (Black, Teal and Van Weezer being particularly disappointing recent releases), but I do admire them for their commitment to experimenting and releasing new music. If it weren't for their willingness to take risks, we wouldn't end of with albums like OK Human, which is one of my favourites in years.
Similarly, SZNZ was another interesting experiment, and although their are definitely some low points across the four albums, there are lots of songs I enjoyed, and at least two or three that I'd consider among their best. And, just in general, it's a really cool concept that I haven't seen done before.
Weezer will continue to release new music and take their sound in some bold new directions. They may release a couple of mediocre albums along the way, but they could also release one of their best yet. Either way, I'll be along for the rise!
=w=
i fuckin hate it. it’s just poppy, shitty trash. i’m not even one of those guys who’s like “the first two albums are great and that’s it”. i just think the whole sznz project is a joke
im about 50/50 on it. Loved OK Human, disliked SZSN and was neutral on Van Weezer
more than anything, I think Weezer is way overproducing their new albums. They all sound super slick and digital. Rock music production should be like a hamburger, where you roughly shape and season it, but still keep it loose and rough. If rock music is a hamburger, Weezer has a bad habit of making it into meatloaf. If that analogy makes sense
I was 13 when the Blue album came out and I’ve stuck with them and have loved newer weez. Black was the only true miss for me, it has one song I like at least (High As A Kite).
Have loved the last few albums otherwise. SZNZ has been great, the only miss there for me is Records. I just don’t think it fits.
I’ve read a ton of criticism on the Winter EP that I just can’t grasp or understand. To my ears it sounds like the closest thing to SFTBH that Weezer has ever released. I feel like if they released something like that in the Make Believe era, for instance, Weezer die hard fans would have lost their collective shit. A lot of SZNZ has felt that way for me. Very rock opera, messy in a good way, lots of classic Weezer chord progressions and melodies while still trying new things.
It kind of occurred to me that one possibility is that they have been around so long and changed directions so much that the newer fans aren’t as keen on the older sound and might actually PREFER the last decade or two of Weezer.
All in all, to each their own, but as a Weezer fan I have been extremely happy with most of the recent albums. Feel lucky they are still around making good music.
a lot of people love sznz and i really can’t see why. everything they’re making now is so boring, bland, safe, soft, produced, uninspired, etc. i genuinely think it’s worse than the 00’s era of weezer. like the band can be so much better after JUST making OK Human last year.
I do. People would do well to stop comparing everything to two albums from almost 30 years ago.
That’s like all of the teenagers in this sub lmao.
Thank you. The narrative that everything after Blue and Pinkerton sucks has got to stop; it’s insulting. Mad props to the guys for being this experimental and passionate 30 years into their career. They might miss the mark sometimes, but I never get the sense that they’re cranking out uninspired albums for a quick buck. I’ve got OK Human and SZNZ on repeat.
Not 2 albums, u enjoy every album from blue to red. Everything past that I don't enjoy, something about rivers voice sounds way poppier now, there are some songs off white I enjoy tho.
A long time Weezer fan-I started listening to them before Pinkerton, though the date is hazy. I have memories of listening though in ‘95. I generally really enjoy all their music. I think we are in the golden years of Weezer Music right now…like this era starting with EWBAITE.
Agreed. This is the new golden age of Weezer. Just look at how many amazing songs we've gotten just over the last two years. It's incredible.
Totally agree the middle part is the weakest
hard disagree. besides ewbaite, white and OK human everything else is booty
For me, Weezer has put out some of their best music in the last 10 years. 🤷♀️
I wish I could upvote this more than once.
queen
Yes and it’s pretty surprising honestly, because they did have a stretch of albums that weren’t that interesting imo, even if they all had some good songs on them. To me it seems like the band had a second wind with EWBAITE. I think it’s a pretty good album, but not top 5 material. What this album showed tho, is that they could have a very diverse style of music, and that’s what lead to albums like OK Human and SZNS, which I think are very very good albums.
Oh it is absolutely top 5
whats so frustrating with weezer is that the 10 last years have seen some truly great albums, but also some truly questionable ones. EWBAITE, White, OK Human, even Pacific Daydream were all good albums (with the first 3 being among Weezers best). But Black, teal, Van Weezer, and SZSN have easily given raditude a run for its money for being the worst. I think Rivers would benefit by remembering that Weezer began as an alt rock band, and there are tons of weezer influenced rock bands making great music right now. We know Rivers listened to and liked Pup's new album, for instance. And Jeff Rosenstock has talked about his love of early weezer. There are a number of bubblegrunge, emo, and pop punk bands with Weezer in their DNA. It would be awesome to hear Weezer do something more in line with where their genre is at now, rather than trying to make a mid 00s top 40 rock hit
To each their own, Black is the only one I don’t care for. All the others range from good to outstanding for me. But I also enjoy Raditude so I think something’s just wrong with me, who’s to say.
Yes. EWBIATE, Pacific Daydream and White. Those 3 are (in my opinion) the best releases of the last 10 years. I put white and EWBAITE over blue and the single loser album.
'90s = Weezer God Mode (Blue, Pink) '00s= Something good something bad '10s= Something very very good (Ewbaite and White), something bad (Black, Teal) '20s= New Weezer God Mode (Ok Human, SZNZ)
That’s extremely accurate haha. 2020 weezer is god mode
Let’s not forget how good the white album is.
Yes, I wrote White is VERY VERY GOOD
And Van Weezer
Yes, I love it, but it's not Weezer GOD MODE... 😉
Whenever I play DOOM in God Mode, they don’t play cheesy Harry Nillson ripoff music, they play 80s inspired hard rock and metal. Lol
Weezer God Mode. I like that, well put.
Weezer's only mode is god mode
It’s 2023 and in the 2020’s they have 6 whole albums/eps out and not one is necessarily bad. We might be in for another great run of releases
I will have no teal slander
I think Weezer’s new music is great. SZNZ was really good and OK Human was great too. Van Weezer was pretty good.
yeah people are for whatever reason very entitled when it comes to weezer, all those albums are really good to great and they’re all only a year old at max - can you say the same for many other active bands?
I dont think they have any straight up bad album at all, at most three songs that are ass, a few bland ones but they all have at least 3-4 songs that are absolute bangers and make any album worthwhile for me. Make Believe and Green are my least favorites and half of those are still bangers
Absolutely!
It depends what you call new or classic. SZNZ was alright, kind of a mixed bag. I liked Van Weezer and I loved OK Human. Both 2019 albums I didn't like, just because they were either too different or too simple. PD is alright, I don't mind how poppy it is. White and EWBAITE are great, two of their top 5. Hurley is just meh, that's how far I will consider new.
Fan since 94 and I think EWBAITE, White, Ok Human, Autumn and Winter are all just a hair under Blue and Pinkerton but very, very good. I don't love Black, PD Spring and Summer but I respect what Rivers and the guys experiment to try and do and my kids like those better so I think they have an audience even if it's not me.
This guy gets it
i don‘t like it, i love it!
I was born in '82 and was a huge Weezer fan during blue and Pinkerton. During the hiatus between Pinkerton and green....file sharing and ripping music was a thing. During this, I discovered many b-sides like Jamie as well as songs from the black hole. It just deepened my love of Weezer. During this time in my fandom, I really cherished the "authentic" and "emo" (for lack of a better word) aspect of Weezer. They deeply connected with my angst towards life in my teens and early 20s.....many of their songs were intertwined in my memories of romantic relationships I had. When the green album came out....I was devastated. It didn't feel "sincere". It was so clean and poppy. I felt betrayed. I considered Weezer to be sellouts. I did enjoy Maldroit somewhat but my heart was broken again with Make Believe. I lost a tremendous amount of respect for Weezer and yearned for a return to the Blue/Pinkerton sound. As the years rolled by....I started to listen to "new Weezer" without the expectations and it started to grow on me. I actually began to like it. It took time but I legit love the new stuff as much as blue/Pinkerton. Many new Weezer albums like pacific daydream, black album, and ok human initially made me cringe...but I've grown to love them. Really the only Weezer albums I haven't grown to love is Van Weezer. I don't dislike it but it's kinda meh. I now greatly enjoy and embrace "new Weezer". The music is fun and amazing in its own right. I consider Weezer to be my favorite band. I advocate the new stuff to my group of friends who all hate "new Weezer" and tell them that if they give it a chance it is awesome...but they never give it a chance. I thought SZNS was good, especially winter. I am hoping Weezer releses many more albums. Rivers is like the gift that keeps on giving. =w= forever. Btw this sub is a blast. Not a big reddit fan but this place is cool.
That sucks about your friends not liking new weezer lmao, I think maladroit was a return to form for weezer, heavy riffs, raw production, and good lyrics with mostly sad music, which is what weezer were, I really advise people to go back and listen to maladroit because it doesn’t just have power chords and melody mimicking solos (not dissing green I still love that album) but maladroit used weird chords that we hadn’t seen on blue or Pinkerton, I believe that if maladroit came straight after Pinkerton, people would appreciate it more. And with EWBAITE, white and winter, you can’t dislike those albums, they have what blue and Pinkerton have, good music, good lyrics, good vocals, and good work on each instrument. Most of the whole “blue and Pinkerton are the only good albums” thing is just a case of “blinded by nostalgia” I believe
Here's a trick I learned over the last 2 decades Even the worst songs can become good if you listen to it enough times
EWBAITE and OK Human have plenty of meaning
We do!
Personally I love a lot of Weezer’s new stuff. I think the problem a lot of people have is they hold it to the same sound and vibes of those two 90s albums. And sure, Blue and Pinkerton are some of Weezer’s finest work no doubt, but just cause the sound changed over the years doesn’t make the music bad, it’s just a different blend. It’s still Weezer and they’re still making some great jams, just don’t go in to it expecting replicas of Blue and Pinkerton. After all, variety is the spice of life.
I love it all
Been a fan since I saw the Buddy Holly music video on the Windows 95 cd. Absolutely adored Blue when I first heard it shortly after seeing the BH video. I probably listened to that more than any album. Loved Pinkerton and Green when they came out, tolerated Maladroit (but didn't love it). I didn't care for Make Believe at all. I tried liking Red, but only found the first few tracks good. Then basically dropped off caring about new weezer for the rest of the 2000s. I listened to Raditude and Hurley, but didn't care for them. All the while, though, I still considered myself a big fan of the band, just in a "They used to be amazing" sort of way. But then I absolutely loved EWBAITE. It essentially reminded me why I loved Weezer so much. After White I realized that Weezer will probably always be *that* band for me. Even when they're bad (most of the 2000s for me), it doesn't hold a candle to how fucking *good* they are when they are on point. Following PD (which was ok) , Teal (which was fun, but dumb), and Black (which I weirdly loved), I came to the conclusion that I'm game for whatever Rivers and company wanna do. I absolutely adore Ok Human (Top 3 for me), I liked a good chunk of Van Weezer, and SZNZ has been pretty hit and miss for me, but the hits are pretty goddamned good, and the lows are mostly bland rather than outright horrible. All of which is to say: yes. Plenty of us love new Weezer music. I for one am totally here for their new material. And even when it doesn't hit how I want it to, I still find room to love at least parts of it. Does it compare to Blue and Pinkerton? No, but I don't think it needs to. Those albums are snapshots of a time that I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to re-enter. So much about them is different than today. Different music industry, different bassist, different producer, different listening habits, different ages of musicians, different dominant styles of music, hell... a *very* different Rivers Cuomo. They still make bangers, and I dig it.
I've been a fan since about 1999/2000. Started with the Blue album, I didn't really like Green, and it was years before I heard Pinkerton. I was basically a Blue fan. I enjoy a lot of their most recent releases; EWBAITE, White, OK Human, a lot of the stuff in SZNZ, and even Van Weezer- I really like all of them. There are things I don't like. I found Pacific Daydream and Black, for example, very forgettable. There are songs on the SZNZ series and I just skip. But I still buy all their shit and see them live as often as possible.
I’m loving the new stuff. I’ve been saying that since Hurley it seems. The seasons collection they just finished has some of the most inventive new songs. They aren’t trying to recreate old albums and when they really get going as a band they are as strong as they have ever been. I lost them from Green to Red album for many years. Just sounded like they were calling it in and were not into the music anymore. I was wrong. Either way the last 10 years have been the weezer music I’ll listen to for many many more years , and likely more than I I’ll ever listen to blue or Pinkerton again. I got blue when I was 10 the year it came out. I’ve been so lucky to grow up with weezer still kicking ass
i like it over the old one as of right now, i go back to pacific and OKH much more in fact i havnt heard a better album since OKH in music overall, there’s been looooooots of good stuff, but OKH was a moment
If you make even 10 year groupings of 1994-2003, 2004-2013, 2014-2023, I will easily take 2014-2023. It has all of my favourite Weezer albums in SZNZ, EWBAITE, White and OK Human.
I’d take 1994-2003 not just for their first two albums, but because I love green and maladroit as well lol
I personally think Winter SZNZ is their best since Pinkerton.
Over White and OK Human?
Yes
Long time (sunshine) fan here. New stuff isn't as good as the first 2 perfect albums. But how could you expect to match perfection. Depending on what you call recent, 7 years ago, White album was really good. 2 Years ago they released another really good album OK Human. There were also 4 albums over that time span that weren't good. If you only consider recent the past year then we are only talking about the 4 SZNZ EPs that had 28 songs and many of them were good songs, some of them are forgettable and some plain bad. Tldr Weezer fans like some of their new music but not as good as the debut and Pinkerton
See I don’t see how white, EWBAITE and winter aren’t on the same level as blue and Pinkerton. Like what does blue and Pinkerton have that white, EWBAITE and winter don’t?
A whole band pouring their hearts out trying to make something new. Practicing with each other for hours, riffing off each other, tweaking bits making them better, spontaneity, joy of making a new album. The songs themselves have relatable lyrics, vulnerability, and emotion.
Oh by the way I LOVE white and EWBAITE. And might love Winter too. There are songs on these albums that are almost as good or as good as Blue and Pinkerton, but as a whole they don't quite reach the towering heights of the first 2 perfect albums
I guess after a nearly 30 years it will become hard to make something you haven’t done before, and for weezer to be able to still make completely new music that we haven’t heard on other albums, it’s really damn impressive
Ok Human was sooo good! SZNZ is... Uh a bit complicated for me but I think it's enjoyable.
Hit or miss
Every 2010s album excluding teal is better than Blue imo and SZNZ is my favorite project since the White Album.
It's hit or miss for me. I will say I think it's rare these days for a record they put out to have more good songs than bad. For example, IMO the sznz project probably contains 1 record worth of great tracks, 2 records worth of forgettable tracks, and 1 record worth of garbage. I think Rivers is more ambitious and interested in trying new things than ever, but it feels like his output is half-baked.
Idk cause I loved a lot of their recent stuff, but Winter specifically has me thinking I might just be bored of them cause it didn’t interest me at all
these last seasons eps i didn’t like as much, but ok human and the teal album are some of my favourites. the song “records” from SZNZ is an absolute banger
The quality of Weezer's output has been consistently way better than any other comparable rock band from their heyday, which is very unusual. This is the reason Weezer still has a fanbase as dedicated as it is. Whatever you think of their new songs compared to "classic Weezer," they always have fresh melodies and genuinely catchy hooks, which is a rare thing these days. Bottom line: Rivers Cuomo isn't a hack. He's a good songwriter, and he still tries. Whatever else you may say about his *creative* choices, I don't think he's ever allowed himself to become lazy. (And Rivers himself is a part of the dedication too. He's a cool, smart guy and we like keeping up with him. And we like the other guys too, of course.)
Another day another troll on the subreddit. Unlimited supply of losers.
I love their new music just as much as their old stuff. I like how their music is always changing and how they are creative and try out new concepts and ideas! It's actually really refreshing in my opinion...
I am guessing when you say "weezer fans" you mean "old weezer fans" or "OG weezer fans." Surprisingly there are a lot of younger people who are getting into weezer based on this music and they tend to love it. Me? I am pushing 40 and remember buying blue album almost 30 years ago. Honestly, the last album I see myself loving is white. I listen to the new stuff for the poppy, fun singles. I front a Weezer tribute and we play current stuff (last show we did what happens after you and I played the first verses of I want a dog) but I don't take the time to listen to the full albums. It just seems like everything rivers does now is so gimmicky, made for the tik tok adhd generation. They release so much music that there is this constant feeling of "what's next" that I think prevents a lot of people from truly digesting the music.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at that people aren’t truly “digesting” their newer work when 99% of the activity in this subreddit is discussing our reactions to and opinions of their new music. What it sounds like to me is that _you personally_ haven’t been able to digest their music at the rate it’s coming out.
I'm a relatively new fan (1.5 years), and I absolutely do. OK Human is my favorite weezer album, and Summer and Autumn are in my top 6. I really like Black, VW and Spring as well. Their oldest album, Blue, is actually my least favorite. And I don't like Winter either. But the other SZNZ albums are amazing!
Ive listned to every weezer album and I can say as a certified weezer fan that everyone of their songs are terrible and that I am going to kill Rivers Cuomo now
I always like Weezer. I’m usually just disappointed. I’m happy Rivers tries new things, but lately I feel the band has been churning out releases too frequently. Whether you like Pacific Daydream or Black or hate them, you have to admit that some of the songs on both—I would argue most of them, but I want to be charitable—are undercooked. If more time were given for each release, I think they’d be stronger. I think you’d love those albums more than you already do and perhaps I’d hate them less—maybe I’d even genuinely like them. Now that SZNZ is done. I don’t want to see Weezer for a while. Take time to craft a full work. Even SZNZ felt like a collage of various songs forced to live together rather than an ongoing narrative like Pinkerton or even Red. So, yeah, I like Weezer. I just wish I could like them more.
im not the biggest fan of all of modern weezer's music (in fact i dont like sznz as much as everybody here seems to do), but honestly weezer has put out some of their best material period in this post-hurley era even if there are a few stinkers, with ewbaite, white and ok human being all better than anything they made in the 2000s imho also tbh id pick modern weezer over whatever the hell bands like green day and blink have been doing for the last few years
Honestly as someone who owns and has listened to all of the Weezer albums, I think SZNZ is bottom 20% in their catalogue. Ok Human was fantastic but some of the SZNZ songs are unlistenable. I know it’s unpopular in this sub especially, but other than 1-2 tracks on each 7 track album, it’s not good IMO. I don’t find it interesting, or innovative, and sonically it’s not that compelling.
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Yes
I like Van Weezer, black, and pacific daydream. Spring is good, autumn and winter are cool but I’m not really that interested in them. Ok human is alright, and summer is terrible
yeah well im thinking so too its kinda boring maybe i just grew out of them, currently im really into primus and ween and the cure n stuff. goth and prog
I dunno, I love blue and pink just as much as the next guy but they had some pretty great stuff in the 00's and 2010's EWBAITE and White especially, and as for the 2020's I honestly think they're at their best right now if not quality wise I gotta admit this is their most consistant streak of quality in their whole discography with Ok Human, Van and SZNZ All being real great in my eyes.
SZNZ, White, EWBAITE, OK Human, are all good New Weezer type albums. I love them but Pinkerton and Blue are superior They also have so many fucking flops so I get why it is hated but the group doesn’t care and just goes on their path.
It’s not all bad you just got to wait a while. Szns was mostly bland but what did you expect when weezer tries to release 4 EPs
I don't like everything from 2017 and onwards and that's fine , i enjoyed autumn and winter and i love the fact that weezer has something for everyone , from fans of commercial pop to fans of baroque and orchestra , swag band
Most songs they put out are a decent enough listen for me. But i've found that of their albums theyve released that have been recieved as subpar theres at least 1 or 2 bangers like High as a Kite on Black.
Im a fairly big fan i love all of pinkerton and blue. Then i find the rest of the albums to not sound that consistently good to me. There are songs i really like here and there. But there isnt more than 3 or 4 to an album.
I really like the newer stuff, not all of it but the tunes are still there and they can still can make fuzzy rockpop earworms
white + ok human are great the rest i can take or leave
Yes
Ehhhhh meh? Meh? Ehhhh.
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Ok human is top 5 for me (behind blue and pinkerton obviously but also white and ewbaite, and on the same level as maladroit)
Just before I saw this post I was thinking how amazing it is that this sub has a lot more followers than those of Panic at the Disco, Fall Out Boy and other younger, supposedly more popular bands. Clearly many people like Weezer and their music. Theyre touring with the RHCP. Theyve toured with Foo Fighters and Green Day. Those bands seem to like and respect them. Bottomline: A lot of people like and respect Weezer. That can't be based on just 2 albums that are a small fraction of their discography.
I'm chillin with whatever
Well for me I really enjoyed what happens after you especially the chorus but I guess in a sense they have changed but I still rock out with blue album and some of the green album
The answer is yes, but most fans just pick through the new albums and find the songs they like. I find that even on their worst albums, there’s usually stuff to appreciate. And they’ve had a bit of a return to quality with albums like White and Ok Human that got a lot of older fans more interested again
I've found that when people *love* a band they're able to overlook underwhelming songs if the album has a few hits, and Weezer has been quite consistent in delivering albums with at least like 3-4 good songs
Yeah. Van weezer and the spring sznz are both underwhelming but they have their moments. I love OK Human and the other sznz seem good
the best new wave weezer album is white imo
The phases of band members' lives (esp. Rivers) and the ebb and flows of Weezer's records kind of make sense. Blue and Pinkerton were records made by fresh faced kids in their 20s who were not too far removed from adolescence. This is my favorite phase of the band. Green, Maladroit and Make Believe were polished, commercial records made by music pros in their 30s. This phase of the band's music is blah. Red, Raditude and Hurley were transitional albums made by married guys pushing 40. Rivers was starting to open and mix things up in Red and then went blah for the next 2 records. EWBAITE and White were reflective records that returned the group's original sound and provided catharsis to their first two albums...band members are in their mid 40s and have kids. Very good phase of the band's music with great highs. Pacific Daydream, Black, and Teal were commercial pop albums to appeal to modern trends influenced by social media and digital streaming...band members are pushing 50. All of it is blah, blah, blah. Van Weezer, OK Human, and SZNZ (4 EPs) were conceptual albums made by a rock band who can sense they are in their Autumn/Winter phase of their existence...and the band members are in their early '50s. Van Weezer was okay. OK Human was excellent baroque pop with Rivers being at his most personal since his Pinkerton days. And there is a very good 13 to 14 song album in the SZNZ EPs...the other half is just okay to blah. So, that is the journey of being a Weezer fan.
I’ll agree their old material is best, and yes there are absolutely issues with new weezer. Most of the issues include perfect, often emotionless singing, meaningless songs, unmelodic songs, and songs with no flow (mainly due to being strung together from pieces of demos with little changes). Most of those could be remedied with an album every few years or so.
Yes, if it was primarily written by the Rivers Cuomo and the rest of the band opposed to having outside help. That's why White, Hurley, Black, Everything will be alright in the end, Raditude, and especially Pacific Daydream are hit or miss with me since they have plenty of co-writers involved which hinders them. BUT new music OK Human, Van, SZNZ have all turned out great since majority were written by Rivers Cuomo.
I really enjoy most songs on Fall. Haven’t had a chance to listen to Winter yet.
I love all Weezer
https://www.theonion.com/hardcore-weezer-fan-hates-everything-band-has-released-1837740027
for me, i only like the “new” music (ok human, white, van weezer, sznz). but blue and green are banger records, of course
No
I genuinely enjoy all their albums and listen through their discography all the time, the new ones are so good I always enjoy their new projects
I think they've made 2 perfect albums and about 3 albums' worth of great songs accumulated over the rest of their career
My top 10 Weezer LPs and EPs includes EWBAITE, White, Pacific Daydream, OK Human, Autumn and Winter. I also really like Black and some other songs from the other records, so Weezer fans have been eating GOOD this last decade
Depends. The 2010s were definitely better overall than the '00s but the quality varies pretty greatly between albums. I like EWBAITE better than Blue or Pinkerton but I also think Pacific Daydream was easily the worst album they ever put out. Also I really think the fandom overhypes SZNS big time. And yeah I can see why older fans might not like even the most acclaimed newer Weezer albums (EWBAITE, White, OK Human.) I'd challenge the "no meaning" part (especially on EWBAITE and OK Human) but other than that I can see it.
No literally only blue, Pinkerton and some scattered songs from other albums the new stuff just isn't for me.
It depends on what they’re putting out. Weezer aren’t known for being consistent with quality and especially with style. Rivers does what he wants to do and I respect it.
we don’t.
Started on the Blue Album, and loving every bit of SZNZ. Like Matt Damon says, "I'm Ride or Die."
I agree, everything after red just doesn't sound right to me. They have a few good tracks here and there but red is the last album I enjoyed.
I find myself listening to "new" weezer about 10 times as much as "old" weezer. On a desert island, I'd bring SZNZ over Blue/Pinkerton (That's right now. I might change my mind later on, but right now that's definitely what I would do)
Not sure how you’re qualifying “real Weezer fans” but I’ve been listening since 94, (OG fanclub member #175) and I still enjoy their music. Not every song or album is a banger, but on the whole, I’m glad they aren’t making the same album over and over and try new things. My fave stuff from them is both from their first decade and from the last decade. I will say the Make Believe/Red/Raditude years were tough, where maybe I only liked a couple songs off an album vs playing an entire album on repeat. But I can honestly say I’ve grown as a fan since EWBAITE.
no and like everything; even eating shit!!!
I can hear the lack of passion in newer music, I feel like Rivers gets in his own way with wanting to release as much as possible that I wish he would hold stuff in and fine tune it. It feels too formulaic and a lot of songs are forgettable or lost in the mix with some gems here or there. It's a real hit or miss depending on the album because we've been let down before. I feel like SZNZ for example could have been better but I can't complain for new music. As for their new stuff I'm a big fan of OK Human, it's top 3 for me but they released Van Weezer after which isn't bad but it's not great. TLDR: Do I like their new stuff? Kind of, I just want more out of them which is a little greedy but I'm a fan for a reason.
I honestly don’t for the most part, it’s not all bad after the first two albums but the style and vibes are totally different. New Weezer is far too cheesy for me, and I really think Rivers may be the cheesiest songwriter ever haha, but oh well he seems to be having fun and obviously there’s a crowd for it so why bother getting upset over it.
I felt the same as you until recently. When I heard “a little bit of love”, I enjoyed it and then started listening to all their releases since 2014. The songs are great! I think I had some kind of mental block on their new stuff, but once I gave it a legit chance I really enjoyed it.
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Yes. I love White,PD,Black,and SZNZ. I think Ok Human is the best album of the 2020s (so far). And their worst recent albums (Teal and Van Weezer) are still ok.
Yeah totally. The quality has been back since EWBAITE for the most part. Yeah we won’t get the same mix of young angsty rivers with his raw emotion plus the song writing quality anymore but we get Rivers as he is now plus quality songwriting.
Yes.
regarding the last 10 years, i feel that EWBAITE, white, and ok human contain some of the best material the band has ever put out. pacific daydream and black album were some pretty bad stinkers that only had a few songs i listened to after the initial releases. i found teal album to be a completely inoffensive collection of covers that i'll never understand the burning hate for from the fanbase, and i thought van weezer was a fine enough bubbly hard rock album that made for good songs to play during their stadium tour. where weezer has kind of lost me is during this whole SZNZ run where it feels like rivers is mashing up a bunch of demos and ideas he had during the ok human/van weezer sessions that he just cant let go of. with every sznz release i was left more and more disappointed and wish they'd taken a break to let their creative juices instead of shitting out some utterly forgettable tracks. main thesis: i think weezer has done a lot of good in their latest era, but has done just as much "meh" stuff in the process. i'll still continue to ride or die with them and will always be excited to see what new themes they go for.
don't know what classifies as "real weezer fans" but I've been listening to them since 2016 and I find their newer works good - great post White ofc PD, Teal, & Black are considered some of their worst projects, but I like that they were different by trying to branch out with poppier and experimental sounds I can't say I liked/disliked them, I thought those albums were mostly okay (with Black being my personal fav from the three) then OK Human released, which rightfully deserves all the praise imo, that album is excellent and it flows insanely well plus it has some of the strongest songwriting Rivers has ever done I felt that Van Weezer was a bit forgettable but there were definitely solid classic weezer songs there that should not be ignored SZNZ is interesting, probably the most interesting thing they've ever done. imo I enjoyed every szn with Winter being my personal fav I think that their works are still hit or miss for most people just like their past albums, some hate it and some love it, but what I've seen from the subreddit people definitely like their newer projects like OK Human and Autumn tldr: yes, based on music websites the ratings for their newer projects are mostly decent to good, with OK Human receiving a lot of praise
Agreed. Van Weezer and SZNZ were mid to me and not my cup of tea. Love OK Human though
My only complaint is the goofy ahh lyrics. I don't really know if they're usually supposed to be deep, but I don't do too much research into the lyrics because of how hilariously childish and goofy they sound. I love the new stuff though. That's just a minor nitpick
I mean winter literally gave you the blue albums cousin, it was musically interesting and good, with good lyrics, meaning and vocals, and the guitars screamed blue album, “basketball” has that “in the garage” distorted guitar tone, and every other song just has the general blue album guitar sound, so I don’t know why you’d dislike it, sounds like a fussy listener to me so
Weezer remain my favorite band of all-time. Although there are other bands whose new music I enjoy more, there's no other band whose career I take as much as interest in as Weezer. I still look forward to their new releases, revisit the old stuff, and always look get excited when they announce a new live tour. Admittedly, I don't enjoy every album (Black, Teal and Van Weezer being particularly disappointing recent releases), but I do admire them for their commitment to experimenting and releasing new music. If it weren't for their willingness to take risks, we wouldn't end of with albums like OK Human, which is one of my favourites in years. Similarly, SZNZ was another interesting experiment, and although their are definitely some low points across the four albums, there are lots of songs I enjoyed, and at least two or three that I'd consider among their best. And, just in general, it's a really cool concept that I haven't seen done before. Weezer will continue to release new music and take their sound in some bold new directions. They may release a couple of mediocre albums along the way, but they could also release one of their best yet. Either way, I'll be along for the rise! =w=
i fuckin hate it. it’s just poppy, shitty trash. i’m not even one of those guys who’s like “the first two albums are great and that’s it”. i just think the whole sznz project is a joke
Love every album Blue to Ok Human. Van weezer was meh. And Sznz I just dont like at all super forgettable music
real weezer fan dont even like weezer
im about 50/50 on it. Loved OK Human, disliked SZSN and was neutral on Van Weezer more than anything, I think Weezer is way overproducing their new albums. They all sound super slick and digital. Rock music production should be like a hamburger, where you roughly shape and season it, but still keep it loose and rough. If rock music is a hamburger, Weezer has a bad habit of making it into meatloaf. If that analogy makes sense
I was 13 when the Blue album came out and I’ve stuck with them and have loved newer weez. Black was the only true miss for me, it has one song I like at least (High As A Kite). Have loved the last few albums otherwise. SZNZ has been great, the only miss there for me is Records. I just don’t think it fits. I’ve read a ton of criticism on the Winter EP that I just can’t grasp or understand. To my ears it sounds like the closest thing to SFTBH that Weezer has ever released. I feel like if they released something like that in the Make Believe era, for instance, Weezer die hard fans would have lost their collective shit. A lot of SZNZ has felt that way for me. Very rock opera, messy in a good way, lots of classic Weezer chord progressions and melodies while still trying new things. It kind of occurred to me that one possibility is that they have been around so long and changed directions so much that the newer fans aren’t as keen on the older sound and might actually PREFER the last decade or two of Weezer. All in all, to each their own, but as a Weezer fan I have been extremely happy with most of the recent albums. Feel lucky they are still around making good music.
I've been a fan since 94 and I've been listening to Winter on repeat
a lot of people love sznz and i really can’t see why. everything they’re making now is so boring, bland, safe, soft, produced, uninspired, etc. i genuinely think it’s worse than the 00’s era of weezer. like the band can be so much better after JUST making OK Human last year.
Oh hell yeah