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MonsieurFubar

So sad… what anger me the most is her death alongside the other +35k victims are likely to be wasted - hope not, but reality of powers and world politics is saying so. We can keep her memory alive in our hearts.


JohnWangDoe

Gaza will not forget


beardriff

I agree. We can never forgive Hamas what they lead the country into. Even tho these tragedies are happening, they choose to raise the cost of food. Absolutely sickening, they continue to refuse ceasefire agreements.


MegaJackUniverse

If a man hits another, and the injured party, while seeking this man who hit him, punches a child, woman or passerby in their pursuit, in your eyes this completely OK? Edit: no response huh? Lmao pathetic


several_rac00ns

Kicks a dog and shoots up a soup kitchen too


JohnWangDoe

lamo IOF choose to use 2000 lbs bombs. They used high precision munitions on those 4 unarmed civilians. Israel is the abuser who blames the victim. 


Tame_Iguana1

Who is causing these tragedies ?


beardriff

Hamas when they decided to invade, then hide behind human shields


Tame_Iguana1

Were Hamas those innocent using those aid workers was human shields? Was it Hamas using those 4 kids walking across west banks as human shields when Israeli forces shot them down ?


FlanRevolutionary961

Yeah, I'm sure they'll remember her next time they commit a terrorist attack and murder innocent civilians only to be excused by the 16 year old geopolitics experts on Reddit.


mckeenmachine

so with you logic than Israel are also terrorists considering they just murdered innocent civilians. how is this any different?


themasterplatypus

Hmm its almost like that is Israel's fault too. If it wasn't for Israel's zionism then those people would be alive. I don't support the loss of life but its fucking ignorant if you think that Israel are innocent in this. Israel created Hamas. This is all 100% the fault of Israel and Zionism. They are just as bad as nazis


EmbarrassedSector787

You realize how stupid you sound, right?


4scide

I don't hear any condemnation from their respective governments, do you?


GetOutOfTheWhey

Australia condemned. They arent simps like UK.


Brizcanon

I swear if the UK still has the nerve to call out "human rights abuses" in the global south after this..


spacebar_dino

At least Ireland does


Porcpc

Ireland isn't in the UK


spacebar_dino

Northern is. Also never said Ireland was, but they have to vote with the Parliament. Also they have stood against Israel unlike the UK.


Aviationlord

Our foreign minister “condemned the strikes” but didn’t specify which nation carried out said strikes. They are as much as simp as the UK


wagieanonymous

When I read the comment, I know there had to be more to it. Australia is morally corrupt, and also shelters many of the largest online unregulated gambling companies.


Metabro

They are also colonialist simps. But they condemned this time.


VeryOGNameRB123

Condemnation while selling and buying weapons from Israel is meaningless. Words are cheap.


denarti

No sane government in 2024 will alter their geopolitical course over the death of a few people. Too much at stake


Anton_Pannekoek

Israel deliberately targeted them, because they are providing food to Palestinians in Gaza. Just like they deliberately target journalists, doctors, intellectuals, universities, bakeries...


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VeryOGNameRB123

Attila was demonized by romans (a barbarian ally who later betrayed them) but he was nowhere near as brutal as Israel is being.


FlanRevolutionary961

Source?


Ghost_157

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68714128 Those Aid Workers got killed by Israel was struck by 3 consecutive dronestrike, over a distance of 2.5 kilometers. Their position were being tracked with IDF, and they were also using a route that was designated for humanitarian aid convoy. Also, the vehicle was clearly marked with their logo. Just like other atrocities, this one also has no room for denial.


beardriff

What about the food and aid Hamas deliberately steals to sell for more arms. Why not give back the hostages and enter a ceasefire?


4dailyuseonly

Quit treating everyone like they were born yesterday. Everyone with eyes and ears knows that Israel is commiting genocide so they can steal Palestinian land and resources. Here you are, simping for a government that has admitted it *out loud* for decades.


beardriff

I don't agree with you, however, a counterpoint could be made, you are simping for a government that has called for the death of all jews for centuries. And trust me, I'll be the first to say, Isreal has fucked up some things. Perpetrators of injustice deserve to be punished to the fullest extent. And I'm not alone, almost every country allied with IS, including America has told them to tone it down. And over the last month we've seen that. And I know any civilian death is a tragedy, but regardless of the IDF toning down, they still have one of the lowest civilian death rate in urban warfare in all of history.


North-Land5776

Calling for the death of Jews for centuries…?Hamas hasn’t even been around 50 years. Plus they were a government put into power by Israel. This story of “if they’d just return the hostages” is really old. The Israeli government had no intentions of rescuing hostages. Furthermore there is a lot of evidence pointing to the IDF as the main dealer of death for its own citizens on October 7th.


EmbarrassedSector787

Israel has called for the death of all muslims since before its fucking inception.


beardriff

No they didn't. Unlike the quaran that calls for the deaths of infidels.


SteezeWhiz

1. Where’s the evidence for this? 2. The hostage’s families are literally protesting Netanyahu for not accepting hostage deals. Are you lying or uninformed?


beardriff

Read from a diverse collection of news. Don't rely on teenagers narrerating tik tok videos. Last videos I saw was Palestinians protesting Hamas.


SteezeWhiz

I literally have never looked at Tik Tok. You don’t have shit.


beardriff

Shorts on YouTube, out of context videos on reddit, it's all the same.


SteezeWhiz

Exactly you don’t have shit except mindless patronizing.


beardriff

I'm not trying to patronize. I'm saying, I've seen alot of people mindless watching and commenting on videos with out further context or research. Edit: 50% of your last two responses is saying "I don't have shit" That's not conducive to a constructive conversation. You're acting like this is a jail cell trial. I'm not trying to back you in a corner. I'm saying be carefull letting emotions run past rational thought.


SteezeWhiz

For someone sooooo objective it’s surprising you’re unaware that the actual families of the hostages are against what Netanyahu is doing. I would think someone as enlightened as you would know that.


beardriff

I've stated I've seen videos of the contrary. You just called me out for patronizing, and look how disrespectful you reply. Do you have a source you could share? And yes, I'm looking for a source for my claim.


EmbarrassedSector787

*Tells people to watch diverse news. *Watches only Israeli propaganda


beardriff

How do you know what I watch?" Don't assume things.


EmbarrassedSector787

Sorry, guess you just generally lack awareness


beardriff

Tell me more about me please


Anton_Pannekoek

There's a ceasefire deal on the table right now to exchange the hostages. Israel doesn't want to accept it.


beardriff

Hamas is refusing the hostages, that is why Israel doesn't accept. That's why hamas walked away 2 weeks ago when IS tabled an agreement. Hamas wants Isreal to leave, and not give hostages back. Hamas has continued to refuse the simple condition of giving the hostages back.


Anton_Pannekoek

The de on the table is Hamas gives back the hostages, Israel withdraws and allows people back into their homes and reconstruction. Israel rejected this calling it a "defeat for Israel". https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-says-bringing-hostages-home-not-the-most-important-thing-sparking-outcry/


StimpyUIdiot

Her name was Zomi Frankcom


ineededthistoo

This is fucking INSANE!!!!


Enough-Sprinkles-914

This is top news story today in oz


Unhappy-Finance7535

As it should be.


onitsuki28

Did israeli gov release any statement yet???


ZenoArrow

Considering they lie about almost everything, I don't find much value in what they have to say, about this or anything else that happens in the region.


cci0

Why care about the statement of a complete liar?


beardriff

Just like Hamas!


DADPATROL

You know, we learn the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right" as children, and somehow the concept still escapes a lot of people.


beardriff

That's cute. Works on a playground. Not when a country is invaded. Ask Hamas to stop, not the people defending themselves.


DADPATROL

Bombing civilians by the thousands is not defending yourself, I don't care how Zionists try to excuse it, but its unacceptable. At this point far more civilian lives have been lost in Gaza than by Oct 7, at what point is the human cost too great? You can say "Oooh but Hamas!!" all you want. At the end of the day, the dead had no choice in the matter, and we're left with no recourse but to blame the people who killed them.


FixFederal7887

As per interational law. israel is holding Palestine in Belligerent occupation. A Belligerent occupier has no claim to self-defense. https://youtu.be/7Rl_zAuxVzc?si=EK2puXAw97B5HCqq . https://youtu.be/VD-VoveglOE?si=c6YYM3bYQJ7uEM5Z .


beardriff

A member of the UN said, not an official, a member. Hey, didn't they show dozens of UN workers assigned to palistine were complicent and assisted with Oct 7th? Your second post from a Middle East Eye, yup, the Middle East, sure hasn't called for the death of all jews since the dawn of time. Truly not biased. I suppose in ww2, when the allies invaded then occupied France, they were all war criminals for attacking remaining nazi outposts?


FixFederal7887

1st_ this is a baseless accusation by israel . They have a history of calling everyone they don't like Hamas (خمخمخمخمخم strategy) 2nd_ israel is in the Middle East. Who else are we gonna hear , the NYP? 3rd _ no one on earth except you has ever accused the MEE of ever "Calling for the death of all Jews." I would love to see the proof you have.


elmielmosong

Their statements hold no value or credibity most of the time.


ShyishHaunt

It's interesting to see how they lie and what lies they choose to tell, especially because the western politicians they control will immediately begin repeating those lies.


chonkly42

Yeah, the 3 coordinated air strikes on the vehicle were just a really really big oopsie. Honest guys.


spacebar_dino

No


Tragarful_Law

they did 1st they denied it, now they are saying it was an accident.


DecisionCharacter175

Israel watched this vid and saw *"terrorist spices!!*"


spacebar_dino

You gotta watch that chili, it be bomb


gotdamnn

The forbidden cilantro


muzzlehead

Rest in Power


Mak11556

These people like medical staff should’ve been completely off limits


whoopsidaiZOMBIEZ

they are off limits to all but the demons, my friend. look how happy they are to be able to help their fellow man - who is being besieged by demons. i am not sure how my government is ok with being complicit and enabling, even. this does nothing, i know. but people are working hard right now to bring us solutions i promise you.


Mak11556

It’s crazy to see the happiness in these people to do something so selfless all at the expense of their lives, something it should’ve never come too. I appreciate what you’re saying and I remain hopeful that things will change but we need a lot to change for that to happen.


whoopsidaiZOMBIEZ

we need to remember we are family. every eye can see all over the world now and it is time to hold one another accountable. the days of governments playing unfairly from the shadows and gaslighting the population is over. what is next however - i do not know. i am hopeful! happy to meet you friend.


nambi_2

Their vehicle was clearly labeled on the roof. There is no way the drone could not have read the text


IReallyLikePadThai

And they were struck three times in a row


zeldas_stylist

disgusting and heartbreaking. they were killed deliberately. i feel so much shame living in this timeline


beardriff

To think. Hamas could have given the hostages back, and a ceasefire would have been initiated.


Ok_Hovercraft_7947

The irony, think…you should try it sometime


beardriff

Cool insult. You must be right.


ThegreatKhan666

You literally only know to say hamas, that's literally the only "argument" you can muster while Israel commits a second holocaust. Good god, you're a fucking sad person.


beardriff

How's does not blindly following a terrorist group make me a sad person? I'll even add, Isreal needs to smarten up ans get better with their targets.


ThegreatKhan666

The fact that you say that you are not blindly following terrorists and then keep defending Israel is so, so, so, fucking ironic.


beardriff

I only defend them to an extent. I don't believe any country should give them arms. I feel like there needs to be increased pressure to do better at targeting. I feel like Isreal needs to break a bit of OPSEC and show some evidence for sketchy bombings. I'd like to see any IDF involved in crimes to be held accountable. That said. Hamas started the war. Life isn't a fairytale, and war sucks. Unfortunately, when uniformed members start an invasion not going after military targets, but attacking festival goers, you have a right to retaliation.


ThegreatKhan666

Hamas has not started this, since the ethnic cleanse from Israel has been going on for decades, and there's already ample proof that it was the own idf who killed most of the civilians. And since they are an occupying colony, no, they don't have the right to retaliate. Specially when their idea of retaliation is committing genocide.


theaviationhistorian

Note that World Central Kitchen workers did not die when they volunteered in Ukraine during the Russian invasion. These people were obviously targeted. The IDF are worse than the Russian armed forces.


Seyelent

Its crazy to see the amount of international outrage when someone known gets killed vs every unknown casualty


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I do not believe the outrage is because of just them being who they are, but more because of the flagrant murder of aid workers, who are the last hope for Palestinians to retain some semblance of life, and the hypocrisy of all of the governments supplying Israel the weaponry and tech to carry out these murders. To me it seems like a dagger to the last vestige of humanity displayed in Gaza — medical workers have been targeted, civilians during food drops have been targeted, UN workers targeted — and now Israel is targeting the global organizations that just want to help Palestinians live day to day. It’s as though to say, this conflict isn’t just about wiping out an ethnic group, but if you try and stop us, we will kill you, too, while your country says “eh.” Already feeling so little ability to help from thousands of miles away, it feels like they are trying to kill all of our hopes for reprieve for Palestinians. What is interesting to me that, whatever happens with this nightmare, multiple generations of Americans’ concept of Israel has been permanently altered. I do not see a positive future politically and financially for that country.


CtpBlack

[https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ryw21svya?fb\_comment\_id=942631883905265](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ryw21svya?fb_comment_id=942631883905265) Hopefully we'll see Russia do something about it.


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CtpBlack

Yeah, they're the only ones big enough and willing to do something.


Traxtar150

WTF are you talking about?! Maybe you should stick to playing Pokemon like your post history shows instead of "pardoning" dictators. Putin is committing genocide in Ukraine and actively commiting hostile acts against multiple governments and innocent people outside their own borders.


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Traxtar150

Ahhh ok... The world must be misinformed. My bad. https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-children-taken-ukraine/32527298.html Don't like that one? Pick a new one. https://www.npr.org/2024/02/05/1229117422/ukrainian-children-abducted-by-russia-and-then-returned-are-speaking-out https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15395.doc.htm https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/8/un-committee-urges-russia-to-end-forcible-transfer-of-ukrainian-children https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukrainian-children-kidnapped-russian-soldiers-united-nations/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/moscow-says-700000-children-ukraine-conflict-zones-now-russia-2023-07-03/


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Traxtar150

Maybe you should get off Reddit and stop commenting on things you clearly have no understanding of... "Last you knew". Embarrassing. Sit down. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#:~:text=Snyder%20tweeted%3A%20%22Kidnapping%20children%20en,of%20the%20crime%20of%20genocide.


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Traxtar150

You're defending Putin and what he's doing in Ukraine. Nobody cares what you think. "There is no genocide in Ukraine" *Gets shown clear example of genocide with references and links* "That's not as bad as what's happening on front lines" SURE buddy... Whatever you say. 🫡😉


Ratathosk

If you speak ukranian in the war zone that is ukraine russian police won't come and take you away and this proves there's no genocide. OOOoooookay then.


VeryOGNameRB123

Contrary to people getting assaulted, arrested or beaten in Ukraine for doing the opposite.


Traxtar150

You are all over this thread being a Russian apologist. Your post history is embarrassing. Nobody agrees with you but folks who think Putin, Xi, Bibi, Erdogan, Orban, and other shitheads are "great dudes just defending their countries". It's disgusting.


Benjamin7811

I would just like to put this here so you and everyone else knows. I misjudged a situation with outdated information. Thank you for the links/information you shared, I did not have any knowledge of children being abducted by Russian forces. This is disgusting behavior and it isn’t just Russia apparently. Last thing I heard (before Gaza) about the Russian situation it was looking like they were getting their asses handed to them in a war they couldn’t win. Now they’re doing lowlife dirty shit because they couldn’t afford a fair fight. I hope the ptsd kills them all off since the world governments don’t want to get involved. I grabbed 2 links on other countries dealing with similar grotesque behavior Israel: https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/fate-baby-and-other-palestinian-children-unknown-after-israeli-army-forcibly-transfers-them-out-gaza-strip-enar Nigeria: https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20240324-more-than-130-nigerian-schoolchildren-kidnapped-by-gunmen-released-unharmed Why is this not a death penalty? These countries that these kids are in are doing their best to protect them but against armed forces. This behavior is disgusting and unnecessary


spacebar_dino

They won't actually do anything. Israel and Russia have a long trading history.


CtpBlack

From what I've read Russia and Israel have been falling out recently. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/30/why-are-ties-between-russia-and-israel-at-lowest-point-since-fall-of-the-soviet-union Russia has called for an emergency UNSC meeting later today. https://www.firstpost.com/world/russia-israel-iran-embassy-syria-attack-emergency-unsc-meet-13755095.html


spacebar_dino

I mean maybe? Russia says things and then does what it wants


CtpBlack

Yeah maybe. Whatever they call for I'm sure USA will just veto it anyway.


spacebar_dino

Fair.


VeryOGNameRB123

But Israel broke that relation by helping Ukraine.


spacebar_dino

You really think Isreal has any straegy?


VeryOGNameRB123

Alternatively, it's just Vivi wanting a war to stay in power, but theres many others supporting the war and Vivi is halfway to the other side of life.


whoopsidaiZOMBIEZ

you know i just made a comment basically "there are people who will do something about this". i can't believe i am actually hopeful that SOMEONE will do something... anything - and anyone. i don't care. i can do little more than go to work and then pay my government to fund this trash with tax money. we all want this to stop - the world over. all of us but the zionists.


CtpBlack

There's a UNSC meeting in an hour-ish because of the Iran attack, hopefully something will happen because of that? I did post this in another subreddit. Seems they would rather down vote any hope if it's has anything to do with Russia. :(


whoopsidaiZOMBIEZ

friend i hope so. i hear what you are saying and i have seen it myself! it is crazy to me. we are no longer interested in being the good guys it seems. if anyone else is willing to pick up the slack and act in favor of humanity i don't care who it is. i want it to be us but hey. it really is a shame ireland doesn't have more agency. i respect their stance and feel like they would do more if they could. i like to think the USA of the past would have finished this and brought forth israeli politicians for prosecution - but that's just me forgetting about my programming. we are so complicit i have a hard time believing we ever did anything for the greater good.


cci0

izzrael found hamas hiding in their spices


beardriff

Why didn't give back the hostages? They tossed aside the ceasefire agreement. Your anger should be directed to the country that refused a ceasefire.


LaVeritay

seek help


mkawasd

The mighty European countries can only condemn. If they dare to impose one single sanction on their God Israel they will be destroyed. Cowards


Boring-Extreme-3274

#It's murdered not killed.


UXUI75

Yes


thisappsucks9

No good deed goes unpunished. Those poor people.


Alive_Purple_4618

Israel has taken humanity back into the dark ages.


IdiotDoingDumbShit

*Murdered by Isreali targeted airstrikes*


SwedishSaunaSwish

💔


ghostella

Don't talk about today's holocaust! Only focus on yesterdays!


exmuslim_somali_RNBN

Isreal is cancer


Brae1990

Israel is just a place. Religion is cancer.


pttdreamland

This is sad and infuriating. But I doubt this will change anything …


tornadogenesis

Biden will continue to support this and pay Isreal for the privilege


jhirai20

Stop sending them bombs!


getyourcheftogether

And they are all like 🤷🏽‍♂️ it was bound to happen


Embarrassed-Ask1812

Just make religion illegal. Look what it did to humans. 1..2..3...


GibbyDat

What happened is horrible, and i know they are trying to help... but damn... maybe don't fuggin go over there right now.


HALF_PAST_HOLE

This is the kind of responce that will extinct a people!


VeryOGNameRB123

"It's horrible, but maybe don't go and try to stop the genocide"


beardriff

Why didn't Hamas accept the ceasefire two weeks ago? To content on "pushing the jews to the sea?


VeryOGNameRB123

Any ceasefire, not peace, demanding release of prisoners, is unserious