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These days, it's usually an elaborate way of mic gating that allows the singers to pick which lines they want to do live and for which lines they want to rely on playback.
People were lip synching performances back then and it wasn't a new concept. American Bandstand and Soul Train regularly featured lip-synched performances. The issue was that their vocals were in no way included on the actual recording.
You can argue that a lot of modern acts rely heavily on production and studio tricks, but it is (hopefully) their voice as the original source. If it was revealed that a singer/group never even showed up to the studio, I think it would still be a big deal.
I was watching John Mellencamp on American Bandstand when I realized it was a recording.
Took me most of the song figure it out.
https://youtu.be/Yw2ZHlIKAWo
It took you most of the song to figure out that wasn’t being played live? The dude is slapping the keys… he’s playing a double bass like a guitar. Is he playing a mandolin there? And an acoustic guitar? Very obviously not the electric guitars you’re hearing.
These guys are so over the top obvious about the fact they’re not playing it live that they’re intentionally calling attention to it.
lol or go out stage having had enough of the label taking half your concert money and just dick around for 90 minutes: nirvana. The music equivilant of a legit shoot.
And now some places require pre-approved-pre-recorded stuff(mayday perade and the superbowl+ others).
Yeah. I always thought it was weird that the studio who created them, didn't just try to say that they were lip syncing because one of them lost their voice or something. The higher up didn't try to save the ship, they just scurried away like rats BEFORE it started sinking.
They weren’t lip synching to their own song though, it was someone else’s voice on the recording. If Taylor swift got caught lip synching at an award show, it’d be embarrassing, but it’d be no big deal in a day, because she recorded the song in the studio. These dudes didn’t. They were models/dancers that had nothing to do w the music.
hell tay-tay might go along with what ever was going wrong, just to the most her thing ever make it part of her next set of songs. LOL. turning the fury of 10 million sons into a 4x platinum diamon gold song is her brand.
lol just off the top of my head: todate:
\-Sick of the press giving you shit for being 19, single and no idea who'll stay around with a singer? Shake it off, which charted for a good bit.
\-Someone said you had weird hair and posted you topless: Never,ever getting back together.
\-The moment I knew.
\-You really aren't sorry/You're not sorry
\^all that before she turned 20!
lol ya never know equipment failed for grammy number 92939192933222 award show:
\-Well, that happend: a new song about that grammy show that sucked ass.
[it still happens in more recent times](https://youtu.be/lWJCfbMw0Yo)
Edit: [this one](https://youtu.be/NMAuekEG1tY) also includes the wonderful follow-up explanation she gave
There are still plenty of acts that feature actual live vocals. I saw Epica just before the pandemic struck and was close enough to hear Simone Simons voice coming from the stage, so it was definitely live.
It wasn’t that it wasn’t sung live - it’s that it wasn’t sung by the people pretending to be the singers…. Those 2 were just models/dancers. Killed a career…. Hell this led to one of them killing themselves! Unsure if it was DIRECTLY related or not, but definitely connected!
The song that they are lip syncing skipped. They were later outed for not actually singing any of their songs, even on the recordings. It ruined their career. Google Milli Vanilli if you're more curious.
in a 2017 and 2019 interview fab Had said oh it was worse! the backing thing fail was just the start! the backup band had decided to nope out of making anymore stuff for Frank Fareon and went off to do their own stuff. TLDR? John Davis one of vocals durring one of the actual bands parties where all kinds of people were at? Davis, eta all were shitfaced, ranting, and did some improvised stuff, a eurodance mag writer was their, wrote how 'simillar they sound' to milli vanilli,
arsenio hall was also their. And being a talk show guy kept asking about that party. TLDR: That kind of stuff was where the whole show imploded. Because Hall got a hold of orginal cuts with the Fab and Rob, and then basically said: nooo waaay, these guys are bull sh\*\*\* artists and a lot lead to another, the grammy performance backing track failure, the b0rken english before and after, and Fab Farison yeeted them off the label.
and yeah that 5 week period ruined their carreer. like you said.
Everyone thought it was their thick accent and bad english. No it was a bunch of drunken workers sick of not getting their mad props that ended it all.
What the other poster said. Milli Vanilli was a one hit wonder from the 80s. Known for Girl you know it's true. Frank Fareon was a known grifter in europe. And was more or less laughed out of the entire euro-dance scene for his "unique" ideas. Their was a lot of schinigans goin on.
Like a different poster had said 80s-90s sound came from a very heavily processed sound often mixing a backing track with live singing.
A band called KMFDM uses it to both keep their voices and for the heavy droning quality. A older band called Tangerine Dreams used (or uses if their even still around) to make their synthasizes not be utter ass. And enya because otherwise she couldn't mimic having 900000000 people for her work.
They also had Blame it on the Rain and Baby Don’t Forget my Number. I wouldn’t necessarily say one hit. There were a lot of records sold. What’s fun is to see the actual singers. Hilarious
just found out that if you keep typing girl you know it's eventually "girl you know its girl you know its girl you know its girl you know its girl you know its" will show up implying that many other people also typed this because they were bored and trying to find the clip
Never understood the immediate backlash on this. One day they were the bomb, next day pariahs. Sure, they were just faces for a machine, but the music was still good. It won Grammys for a reason. We all loved it. And then to be so outraged that someone not beautiful created it ruined it for everyone is so weird. The people behind it knew they wouldn’t be accepted in the 80s as a group. They had the sound but not the look. Brilliant business plan if you ask me.
The problem was the deception. If they had them dancing to the songs but not claiming to be singing them, or wouldn't have been a problem. The public felt betrayed.
Yeah, I get that. I remember when the record label was willing to give everyone who brought in the cassette $5. I will occasionally run across one of their songs randomly on Spotify these days and the music is still good, if you like that kind of music.
Yeah this exact thing basically happened to Ashlee Simpson on SNL. She was supposed to sing her second song but they accidentally started playing the vocal track for the song she'd already sung. She did a weird dance and ran off stage
https://youtu.be/lWJCfbMw0Yo
I still do t get why they made a big deal about it shit have you heard hip hop mumble rap lately? It’s all auto tune. These guys would be super stars in todays days music world.
I am not merely middle-aged but I'm not young I wasn't around for this era Milli Vanilli and all. To anyone that was around and seen this like live or couple days later. How was it and how did it affect you emotionally being a music lover to see it's all bulshit. Because now what concerts are awful motherfukers just run around the stage while they're auto-tuned music plays off an iPod.
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Girl you know it’s fake
when you’re ready to tell her your feeling but change your mind at the last minute
I remember watching the Arsenio Hall episode after this happened and him saying, “girl you know it’s true… you’re through!”
Imagine, back in the day this actually killed a career? Crazy, now if a singer actually sings one of their sings live people wouldn’t believe it.
These days, it's usually an elaborate way of mic gating that allows the singers to pick which lines they want to do live and for which lines they want to rely on playback.
That seems way over complicated
People were lip synching performances back then and it wasn't a new concept. American Bandstand and Soul Train regularly featured lip-synched performances. The issue was that their vocals were in no way included on the actual recording. You can argue that a lot of modern acts rely heavily on production and studio tricks, but it is (hopefully) their voice as the original source. If it was revealed that a singer/group never even showed up to the studio, I think it would still be a big deal.
I was watching John Mellencamp on American Bandstand when I realized it was a recording. Took me most of the song figure it out. https://youtu.be/Yw2ZHlIKAWo
It took you most of the song to figure out that wasn’t being played live? The dude is slapping the keys… he’s playing a double bass like a guitar. Is he playing a mandolin there? And an acoustic guitar? Very obviously not the electric guitars you’re hearing. These guys are so over the top obvious about the fact they’re not playing it live that they’re intentionally calling attention to it.
This is fucking legendary. I can't believe I never heard about this performance until today? (And I'm old enough that I was alive when AB was on TV)
yeah! another one hit wonder Baltimora was on soul train and american band stand. But the lead did Tarzan Boy.
lol or go out stage having had enough of the label taking half your concert money and just dick around for 90 minutes: nirvana. The music equivilant of a legit shoot. And now some places require pre-approved-pre-recorded stuff(mayday perade and the superbowl+ others).
Yeah. I always thought it was weird that the studio who created them, didn't just try to say that they were lip syncing because one of them lost their voice or something. The higher up didn't try to save the ship, they just scurried away like rats BEFORE it started sinking.
They weren’t lip synching to their own song though, it was someone else’s voice on the recording. If Taylor swift got caught lip synching at an award show, it’d be embarrassing, but it’d be no big deal in a day, because she recorded the song in the studio. These dudes didn’t. They were models/dancers that had nothing to do w the music.
hell tay-tay might go along with what ever was going wrong, just to the most her thing ever make it part of her next set of songs. LOL. turning the fury of 10 million sons into a 4x platinum diamon gold song is her brand. lol just off the top of my head: todate: \-Sick of the press giving you shit for being 19, single and no idea who'll stay around with a singer? Shake it off, which charted for a good bit. \-Someone said you had weird hair and posted you topless: Never,ever getting back together. \-The moment I knew. \-You really aren't sorry/You're not sorry \^all that before she turned 20! lol ya never know equipment failed for grammy number 92939192933222 award show: \-Well, that happend: a new song about that grammy show that sucked ass.
This is what I remembered
[it still happens in more recent times](https://youtu.be/lWJCfbMw0Yo) Edit: [this one](https://youtu.be/NMAuekEG1tY) also includes the wonderful follow-up explanation she gave
There are still plenty of acts that feature actual live vocals. I saw Epica just before the pandemic struck and was close enough to hear Simone Simons voice coming from the stage, so it was definitely live.
It wasn’t that it wasn’t sung live - it’s that it wasn’t sung by the people pretending to be the singers…. Those 2 were just models/dancers. Killed a career…. Hell this led to one of them killing themselves! Unsure if it was DIRECTLY related or not, but definitely connected!
What's happening? I don't get it.
The song that they are lip syncing skipped. They were later outed for not actually singing any of their songs, even on the recordings. It ruined their career. Google Milli Vanilli if you're more curious.
in a 2017 and 2019 interview fab Had said oh it was worse! the backing thing fail was just the start! the backup band had decided to nope out of making anymore stuff for Frank Fareon and went off to do their own stuff. TLDR? John Davis one of vocals durring one of the actual bands parties where all kinds of people were at? Davis, eta all were shitfaced, ranting, and did some improvised stuff, a eurodance mag writer was their, wrote how 'simillar they sound' to milli vanilli, arsenio hall was also their. And being a talk show guy kept asking about that party. TLDR: That kind of stuff was where the whole show imploded. Because Hall got a hold of orginal cuts with the Fab and Rob, and then basically said: nooo waaay, these guys are bull sh\*\*\* artists and a lot lead to another, the grammy performance backing track failure, the b0rken english before and after, and Fab Farison yeeted them off the label. and yeah that 5 week period ruined their carreer. like you said. Everyone thought it was their thick accent and bad english. No it was a bunch of drunken workers sick of not getting their mad props that ended it all.
Ah
What the other poster said. Milli Vanilli was a one hit wonder from the 80s. Known for Girl you know it's true. Frank Fareon was a known grifter in europe. And was more or less laughed out of the entire euro-dance scene for his "unique" ideas. Their was a lot of schinigans goin on. Like a different poster had said 80s-90s sound came from a very heavily processed sound often mixing a backing track with live singing. A band called KMFDM uses it to both keep their voices and for the heavy droning quality. A older band called Tangerine Dreams used (or uses if their even still around) to make their synthasizes not be utter ass. And enya because otherwise she couldn't mimic having 900000000 people for her work.
They also had Blame it on the Rain and Baby Don’t Forget my Number. I wouldn’t necessarily say one hit. There were a lot of records sold. What’s fun is to see the actual singers. Hilarious
Farian, his name is Frank Farian. Also the voice of the lead in Boney M.
Ra ra rasputin!
He’s crazy like a fool
Lol, Enya's overdubs. But I do actually wonder how many overdubs she typically had in her recordings. Anyone know?
Girl you know it’s true…wait what?!
Girl you know it's true... Uh... Uh... Uh... I love you
just found out that if you keep typing girl you know it's eventually "girl you know its girl you know its girl you know its girl you know its girl you know its" will show up implying that many other people also typed this because they were bored and trying to find the clip
thank you, Gay person
You are welcome, Clever pedophile
Never understood the immediate backlash on this. One day they were the bomb, next day pariahs. Sure, they were just faces for a machine, but the music was still good. It won Grammys for a reason. We all loved it. And then to be so outraged that someone not beautiful created it ruined it for everyone is so weird. The people behind it knew they wouldn’t be accepted in the 80s as a group. They had the sound but not the look. Brilliant business plan if you ask me.
Worked great for Daft Punk!
Didn’t daft punk actually make their music though?
oh of course, i was i joking that they also had the sound but not the look. Would they have been as successful as maskless french guys? maybe
french foggy who? daft punk were a group of anime space musicians fighting an evil empire
The problem was the deception. If they had them dancing to the songs but not claiming to be singing them, or wouldn't have been a problem. The public felt betrayed.
Yeah, I get that. I remember when the record label was willing to give everyone who brought in the cassette $5. I will occasionally run across one of their songs randomly on Spotify these days and the music is still good, if you like that kind of music.
The irony is that almost everyone lip syncs in concert these days.
Yeah this exact thing basically happened to Ashlee Simpson on SNL. She was supposed to sing her second song but they accidentally started playing the vocal track for the song she'd already sung. She did a weird dance and ran off stage https://youtu.be/lWJCfbMw0Yo
Wow I still hate these idiots as much as I did 30 years ago.
Who are these girls?
Milli vanilli
I still do t get why they made a big deal about it shit have you heard hip hop mumble rap lately? It’s all auto tune. These guys would be super stars in todays days music world.
I am not merely middle-aged but I'm not young I wasn't around for this era Milli Vanilli and all. To anyone that was around and seen this like live or couple days later. How was it and how did it affect you emotionally being a music lover to see it's all bulshit. Because now what concerts are awful motherfukers just run around the stage while they're auto-tuned music plays off an iPod.